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One of the interesting things about the whole crypto debate, going back at least to the Clipper announcement (and actually some months before) has been that the pro-restrictions, pro-GAK side of the argument has almost no defenders! Except for David Sternlight, Dorothy Denning, and Donn Parker ("attack of the killer Ds"?), there are almost no public spokesmen for the pro-restriction, pro-GAK side.

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There's quite a few folks in the Yale CS department that are pro-Clipper or fence sitters. They justify it in class by claiming that law enforcement needs these abilities if LE is to remain effective.

I don't think "pro-Clipper" properly characters the enemy. Clipper is chip used in a voluntary federal standard. If we had sufficient civil liberties guarantees, I bet even a lot of c'punks wouldn't object to govt agencies using clipper chips. But the Freeh/Denning position, as I understand it, is that: * privacy is not a right * the govt should routinely spy on citizens * strong crypto should be illegal * no public debate on the underlying issues Are there other computer scientists with this position? Roger