Re: not a flame please read and think about this
i know this is unpopular but i wish someone would respond the the points rather than flaming me. pat farrel is the only one of you with the balz to try to defend himself insead of attacking me. and you attack me for being anon. i love it. cypherpunks yea right. more of the indefensible. ive been keeping a list: janet renos cypherpunk heros: wei dai patents algorithms - for microsoft!!!!. that should fucking help us a lot. whos he gonna sue first? hey i think ill patent xor!!!! and give the patent to the nsa!!! according to sci.crypt mat blaze can prove that clipper has no back door. right. that sure helps us. david sternlights new hero. pat farrel signs up with the nsa to make the key escrow rules easier for us morons to understand. hey thanks. maybe theyll give you a nicer room in the concentration kamp. a whole shitload of socalled cypherpunks jumping over each other to help and defend him. brian davis trys to convinice us that key escrow isnt so bad (who signs your paycheck davie?????) that guy from rand corp tells us words of wisdom from robert morris the nsa guy as if we should write them down and pray three times a day to them. carl elison designs key escrow for tis and acts like hes one of us. bruce schneier is copyrighting crypt programs and threatining to sue people who use it. even phil zimmerman is selling the rights to pgp. what about all the people who contributed code (like me). not a dime for us because phil is famous and your not alowed to say anythingn bad about him. sorry i forgot phil is god. no one dares to complain. ask phil about me and when i asked about sharing profits from the code i conrtibuted. also about the deal with r.f... by the way i am not the anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com person who toold farel to shut up. that was someone else. i dont think anyone should shut up. thats my point. i think we should talk about this in the open. got it perry??? lets get back to being punks. fuck these traitors. do crypto and fuck the nsa. an116512@anon.penet.fi
On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Anonymous wrote:
i know this is unpopular but i wish someone would respond the the points rather than flaming me. pat farrel is the only one of you with the balz to try to defend himself insead of attacking me. and you attack me for being anon. i love it. cypherpunks yea right. ...
brian davis trys to convinice us that key escrow isnt so bad (who signs your paycheck davie?????)
an116512@anon.penet.fi
An: You flamed me several months ago, essentially for being a govt flunky in the boonies. You didn't respond to my last post on the topic ... Many of us (apparently) have trouble with flames orginating from "the great and powerful Oz" who may be, in fact, a nonacheiver hiding behind a curtain. I guess we need Toto to pull away your curtain of privacy! If you don't diverse viewpoints, either persuade this list's owner to change his charter or start your own list. Then maybe *I'll* start posting anonymously. You also misread the purpose of my post re MKE. The purpose was for me to get a sense whether some number of Cypherpunks might agree to some form of MKE (i.e. would some kind of protection that the government might accept, also be acceptable to most/some on the list). I received a number of thoughtful and thought provoking replies. I was expecting your flame, but I see you decided to use your blunderbus rater than a rifle. And you are, of course, correct. Make no attempt to understand your enemy. Stand your ground regardless. No tactical retreats, no overall strategy. Was this from Sun Tzu? EBD Not a lawyer on the Net, although I play one in real life. ********************************************************** Flame way! I get treated worse in person every day!!
Anonymous writes:
i know this is unpopular but i wish someone would respond the the points rather than flaming me.
I'm afraid that you're basically an anonymous jerk and that I personally have no interest in responding to you. Post under your own name if you want more than bile. .pm
Hm. Time for agents. But here's a fairly simple test: if there are no uppercase letters in the body of the message, and no apostrophes either, it's likely from "anonymous", our favorite Thomas. After all, the other reputable nyms at least *sign* their stuff, don't they? [and PGP generally seems to use upper-case when it writes signatures] frodo =) -- Richard Martin Alias|Wavefront - Toronto Office [Co-op Software Developer, Games Team] rmartin@aw.sgi.com/g4frodo@cdf.toronto.edu http://www.io.org/~samwise Trinity College UofT ChemPhysCompSci 9T7+PEY=9T8 Shad Valley Waterloo 1992
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