Re: ABC News on internet telephony
ISPs have functioned better using flat monthly rates, and the biggies are like AT&T are going in the same direction for internet access. I don't see this as being 'counter-intuitive' at all. The costs to the ISPs and telcos aren't really based on where you call or how long you are on anymore. Big questions are how the main hubs for the internet are maintained (esp. when some of the big telcos maintain them... a conflict of interest, perhaps). Will fees become too much that smaller ISPs are put out of business, or that we'll start seeing ISPs merge? (Remember when there were mainly local cable companies?) On 18 Jul 96 at 11:03, David Sternlight wrote: [..]
This is the rankest speculation on my part, but could some of the bigger, smarter phone company cum internet providers have done some serious analysis and concluded that we're moving away from distance-based rates for voice calls. Might they even have examined where we'll be in the next ten years (with ADSL, etc.) and decided that the network technology and simple market economics makes fixed charges per "line" more profitable to them than metered usage? Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but some of the bigger actors are starting to behave in a surprisingly counter-intuitive (based on the way we stereotype them) fashion on this topic.
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At 5:58 AM -0700 7/19/96, Deranged Mutant wrote:
ISPs have functioned better using flat monthly rates, and the biggies are like AT&T are going in the same direction for internet access. I don't see this as being 'counter-intuitive' at all.
I said counter-intuitive to the way we stereotype them. We stereotype the phone companies as greedily pursuing metered rates and distance-sensitive ones at that. Every so often we see a horror story that they're about to charge per packet, or put in a modem tax, or some such. History supports such fears.
The costs to the ISPs and telcos aren't really based on where you call or how long you are on anymore.
I don't have the data to know if that's generally true, but I'll take your word for it for the moment. Can you post or e-mail me something definitive?
Big questions are how the main hubs for the internet are maintained (esp. when some of the big telcos maintain them... a conflict of interest, perhaps). Will fees become too much that smaller ISPs are put out of business, or that we'll start seeing ISPs merge? (Remember when there were mainly local cable companies?)
Count on it. But I speculate the demise of smaller ISP's will come at least in part in another way--the capital base of the big telcos means that they can offer more reliable service, fewer busy signals, better customer service, and more rapid introduction of advanced technologies AT SCALE as they grow. But isn't that the way markets are supposed to work? David
On 18 Jul 96 at 11:03, David Sternlight wrote:
[..]
This is the rankest speculation on my part, but could some of the bigger, smarter phone company cum internet providers have done some serious analysis and concluded that we're moving away from distance-based rates for voice calls. Might they even have examined where we'll be in the next ten years (with ADSL, etc.) and decided that the network technology and simple market economics makes fixed charges per "line" more profitable to them than metered usage? Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but some of the bigger actors are starting to behave in a surprisingly counter-intuitive (based on the way we stereotype them) fashion on this topic.
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