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I'm listening to the BBC's World Service at the moment, and they're doing a feature on pedophiles on the internet, complete with much knashing of teeth about encryption and anonymity, along with some lurid stuff about private holding cells, and sexual tourism, and slavery. And Lions. And Tigers. And Bears. Oh My. They even had a quote from someone at Wired (a Brit, didn't catch the name), who sounded like he was wringing his hands about unbreakable encryption. Probably spliced out of a larger quote which had more sense in it. Be afraid, be very afraid. They're coming for your daughters. The BBC says so. Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/
Robert Hettinga wrote:
I'm listening to the BBC's World Service at the moment, and they're doing a feature on pedophiles on the internet, complete with much knashing of teeth about encryption and anonymity, along with some lurid stuff about private holding cells, and sexual tourism, and slavery. And Lions. And Tigers. And Bears. Oh My. ... etc... Be afraid, be very afraid. They're coming for your daughters. The BBC says so.
What ******I'm******* afraid of is another Richard Davis coming after my daughters. In case you don't know, he's the fuckhead who killed 12 yr old Polly Klaas after abducting her from her bedroom while her mother slept in the other room. The man had been in and out of custody for years for violent crimes, and always seemed to get out. Davis did not use encryption, a computer, the Internet, PGPPhone. He used her panties. Internet, encryption, anonymity: bullshit. Get the fucking child-murderers off the *streets*
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What ******I'm******* afraid of is another Richard Davis coming after my daughters.
In case you don't know, he's the fuckhead who killed 12 yr old Polly Klaas after abducting her from her bedroom while her mother slept in the other room.
Oh, we know about it all right. We've heard nothing else on the news for months on end. A little war of sound bytes to the exclusion of the hundreds of other children who were killed by their own parents during the time we were fed this one-in-a-million occurrence as some sort of prototypical child danger. Someone in "another newsgroup" recently commented that by the end of the trial, he was ready to vote the death penalty for Polly's father, if that was the only way to make the man shut up. :) Despite such press antics, home is still the most dangerous place for a child, and the parents are the most likely perps if a child comes to harm. Being kidnapped out of your bedroom by a stranger probably ranks below random lightning strikes as something kids need to worry about. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ mpd@netcom.com $ via Finger. $
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Mike Duvos wrote:
Someone wrote:
What ******I'm******* afraid of is another Richard Davis coming after my daughters.
In case you don't know, he's the fuckhead who killed 12 yr old Polly Klaas after abducting her from her bedroom while her mother slept in the other room.
Oh, we know about it all right. We've heard nothing else on the news for months on end. A little war of sound bytes to the exclusion of the hundreds of other children who were killed by their own parents during the time we were fed this one-in-a-million occurrence as some sort of prototypical child danger.
Someone in "another newsgroup" recently commented that by the end of the trial, he was ready to vote the death penalty for Polly's father, if that was the only way to make the man shut up. :)
I met Polly's father at the "Kids off Lists" press conference in front of the Capitol in June. He's an irascable fellow, and there's more to the story than you might think at first. Check out part of Brock's Muckraker column I've attached below. -Declan // declan@eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan@well.com // http://www.muckraker.com/muckraker/96/24/index3a.html Muckraker By Brock Meeks June 12 1996 Teach Your Children Well, or Else ... My kids are info subversives. I should know. I taught them everything I know about the subject. My kids know not to give out their telephone number or address to any yahoo who asks for it on the street or phone. If pressed for such information, they simply make up a number or address or zip code. Those lessons have transferred to the online world, too. So when prompted for personal information while netsurfing, my kids either jet over to another site or simply fill in the blanks with bogus info. My question is: What the hell are other parents doing? We live in an information culture; no amount of bitching about how today's kids are "smarter than we are" and none of the all-too-tired whining about how "I have to ask my 10-year-old to program the VCR" will make this fact any less true. Parents need to take more responsibility. The fight over the Communications Decency Act raised the same point. How best to protect kids from unrelenting Internet info scavengers is now a topic of national debate, and the long arm of Congress and regulatory agencies is reaching into the sandbox. The issue ignited with an overheated report from the well-respected Center for Media Education. These folks have done some great work in the past, such as hammering the television networks for trying to pass off Saturday morning cartoons as "educational programming." But when they released their "Web of Deception" study, the group went over the edge into Timothy Leary land - rest his soul. That report overhyped a very real concern: Some companies use Web sites as bait to entice kids to provide a wealth of information about themselves, which can then be cranked into a database and crunched every which way. The report drove Representative Bob Franks (R-New Jersey) and Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) to introduce the "Children's Privacy Protection and Parental Empowerment Act." The idea is to keep kids' names off direct marketing lists. It's a good concept, but it's short on focus and long on fear - the fear that gathering such information can lead to child abuse or worse. A group called "Kids Off Lists" (KOL) was on hand during a PR event to help juice the introduction of the bill. Heading that group is Marc Klaas, whose claim to fame is that he's the father of Polly Klaas, the 12-year-old California girl who in 1994 was abducted from a slumber party and murdered. Klaas's personal tragedy lends a twisted emotional and impassioned draw to the issue. During that event, a direct mail company called Metromail, a subsidiary of the publishing giant R.R. Donnelley & Sons, was singled out as evil incarnate for its practice of selling information on kids via a 900 telephone number. KOL showed off a flyer that offers US$5,000 for information leading to the conviction of anyone who has used information from such a company to "locate and harm a child." But there's a subplot here. The actual driving force and financial backer of KOL is John Phillips, who runs Aristotle Publishing, a political software company in Washington, DC. Phillips, as it turns out, has been in a kind of run-and-shoot legal battle with Donnelley for the past five years, according to an article in the Washington City Paper, an alternative weekly published in DC. Phillips and Donnelley clashed over a soured deal involving Aristotle and Metromail. Phillips sued for $5.3 million, and Metromail settled in 1995 for $2.7 million, according to the City Paper article. But Phillips refused to let up and has funded KOL to keep the pressure on Donnelley and Metromail. On 7 March, Donnelley said it would sell off its majority holding in Metromail. All this emotion spilled over and caught the attention of the Federal Trade Commission. Jodie Bernstein, director of the agency's Bureau of Consumer Protection, said that the "focus" of its two-day hearing last week was "children in cyberspace" with questions aimed at finding out "what's happening" with information collection on kids in cyberspace. "We are not looking to prosecute but to educate and report," he said. [...]
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