Reposted from the firewalls mailing list. Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 16:39:33 -0700 From: Bill Stout <bill.stout@hidata.com> Subject: DES-3 Story retraction I retract the following story, it was told to me by a contractor who attended a MBONE group meeting on the MBONE, where the story originated: Story: 'A person working on the MBONE project did an unannounced experiment across the internet using Triple-DES for MBONE, and the very next day, 'ATF' agents knocked on his door and warned him against exporting munitions. The experimentor was shaken by the fact that agents approached him so quickly after the experiment.' The MBONE experimentor referred to in the story was Van Jacobson at the Lawrence Berkeley Labs. I followed this up since receiving much interested mail responses. I called Van Jacobson himself at the Lab (the web is a wonderful thing!), and found that the story was embellished. The real event as told by Van Jacobson was: 'MBONE software was at one time accidentally compiled with links into libraries which contained DES, and someone (I don't remember who) noticed the DES capability in our MBONE binaries, and informed the group about the encryption export problem. The problem was promptly fixed.' Sorry for the mis-information. Bill <=======10========20====Ruler for Eudora users==50========60========70========80 William B. Stout | "Stop socialism in America!" Senior Systems Admin | "Dilbert for President." Hitachi Data Systems | "Police power today=police state tomorrow." Open Systems Center | "The secret of life - being part of the process of Santa Clara, California | creation." 408-970-4822 | #include <sanity_disclaimer.h> <=======10========20========30========40========50========60========70========80
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
I retract the following story, it was told to me by a contractor who attended a MBONE group meeting on the MBONE, where the story originated:
I'm greatly heartened by retractions. Anyone who retracts so promptly shows a commitment to truth that I admire - and that also inclines me to believe whatever that person does not retract. I wish it were a more common thing. Sean Gabb.
I did NOT write what you are attributing to me. I was quoting someone else. Please be more careful with your attributions. .pm Sean Gabb writes:
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
I retract the following story, it was told to me by a contractor who attended a MBONE group meeting on the MBONE, where the story originated:
I'm greatly heartened by retractions. Anyone who retracts so promptly shows a commitment to truth that I admire - and that also inclines me to believe whatever that person does not retract. I wish it were a more common thing.
Sean Gabb.
On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
I did NOT write what you are attributing to me. I was quoting someone else.
Please be more careful with your attributions.
Since I did not address my praise to you, I fail to see why you should have any reason to be outraged by it. However, let me record now for the avoidance of ambiguity that I have never accused YOU of retracting any falsehood. Yours sincerely, Sean Gabb.
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