Re: Spam Prevention System?
I was wondering if perhaps a way to minimize the hassle with sitting on one's thumb while waiting for unwanted email to download could be eased by an email program which retreived only headers, allowed you to delete the unwanted ones, and then retrieve the wanted ones, deleting the rest. Is this feasible?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199705230854.EAA23450@dhp.com>, on 05/23/97 at 02:54 AM, lucifer@dhp.com (lucifer Anonymous Remailer) said:
I was wondering if perhaps a way to minimize the hassle with sitting on one's thumb while waiting for unwanted email to download could be eased by an email program which retreived only headers, allowed you to delete the unwanted ones, and then retrieve the wanted ones, deleting the rest. Is this feasible?
Yes it is but will not help much. As seen with the subject lines of the ascii art posted to the list it is quite simple to give a message a subject that would not reveal that it was spam until the entire message was downloaded and opened. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii@amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: To whom the gods destroy, they first teach Windows... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM4W3vI9Co1n+aLhhAQHTUgP/V6e83DL9X1V9IVG+YKr/P2N6pcV+ytNp NbUeW8BhESRwzBVQXpfSkdNzqpwZdahQPB81FMW9BUguVGDO6/NFhAzaDcKYS0fl MXNk9XmoRhqhbpvFMetWkMPg1baRE3kUcDsK0OKZpuz9C3stuUSsXNeStn3P6WSU /jp+F7QWCpA= =8hnd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, 23 May 1997, William H. Geiger III wrote:
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In <199705230854.EAA23450@dhp.com>, on 05/23/97 at 02:54 AM, lucifer@dhp.com (lucifer Anonymous Remailer) said:
I was wondering if perhaps a way to minimize the hassle with sitting on one's thumb while waiting for unwanted email to download could be eased by an email program which retreived only headers, allowed you to delete the unwanted ones, and then retrieve the wanted ones, deleting the rest. Is this feasible?
Yes it is but will not help much. As seen with the subject lines of the ascii art posted to the list it is quite simple to give a message a subject that would not reveal that it was spam until the entire message was downloaded and opened.
Misleading spam subject lines are nothing new. (Just got one today, in fact entitled "Aren't you the one who...".) The idea (in the spammers small little brain) is to make the subject something that you would want to open and read. (Why they think I am willing to wade through 20+k of marketting drivel is beyond me...) Much of these ideas are similar to direct mail marketting campaigns, but without the graphical or ethical content. The idea behind marketing spam is that people are more willing to buy your product if you spit in their face first or attack it to rocks and throw it through their windows. Now all that needs to happen if for these people to get a connection to the clue server and figure out that such actions are not helping them any. [Clue #1 for Spammers: If you have to hide the source of your message, maybe there is something seriously wrong with how you are delivering it.]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <Pine.GSO.3.96.970523101839.6292E-100000@linda.teleport.com>, on 05/23/97 at 11:27 AM, Alan <alano@teleport.com> said:
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In <199705230854.EAA23450@dhp.com>, on 05/23/97 at 02:54 AM, lucifer@dhp.com (lucifer Anonymous Remailer) said:
I was wondering if perhaps a way to minimize the hassle with sitting on one's thumb while waiting for unwanted email to download could be eased by an email program which retreived only headers, allowed you to delete the unwanted ones, and then retrieve the wanted ones, deleting the rest. Is this feasible?
Yes it is but will not help much. As seen with the subject lines of the ascii art posted to the list it is quite simple to give a message a subject that would not reveal that it was spam until the entire message was downloaded and opened.
Misleading spam subject lines are nothing new. (Just got one today, in fact entitled "Aren't you the one who...".)
The idea (in the spammers small little brain) is to make the subject something that you would want to open and read. (Why they think I am willing to wade through 20+k of marketting drivel is beyond me...) Much of these ideas are similar to direct mail marketting campaigns, but without the graphical or ethical content.
The idea behind marketing spam is that people are more willing to buy your product if you spit in their face first or attack it to rocks and throw it through their windows.
Now all that needs to happen if for these people to get a connection to the clue server and figure out that such actions are not helping them any.
[Clue #1 for Spammers: If you have to hide the source of your message, maybe there is something seriously wrong with how you are delivering it.]
Well the saddest thing of all is that this type of mass marketing works. :( It truly is a sorry commentary of the sheeple of this country. If they didn't make money off this and increase their sales the spam (and all other blind mass marketing) would disappear. - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. Finger whgiii@amaranth.com for PGP Key and other info - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tag-O-Matic: If you want it done right, forget Microsoft. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM4Xt4Y9Co1n+aLhhAQHBzwP/YJr8d2V9A2p7V2i2OObpcUYpn26FjTtT wTgAfuccXRDezJChkODLcqDqBNE1w2oFXhimqZrDxZ6u8eDdRNun5xpkNeQ1BVUK KcT1OeD0E3hqQSsV5A2H4zku+iN25PDfmPgEe/KBw3tY71/4g967thRbSNG6T9Aw TbzMWXK2sGw= =2ZKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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