Re: Clinton Sells Arlington Burials (fwd)
Jim Choate chided Dimitri:
You moron, it has *NOTHING* to do with the military. IT HAS to do with citizens who died in the service of their country. The not so surprising fact is that the vast majority of those eligible are soldiers. The cemetary recognizes their INDIVIDUAL sacrifice and NOT anything to do with the US Government per se. Selling burial plots at Arlington should involve impeachment.
I agree with Jim's acknowledement of citizen sacrifice. However, Arlington, like all military cemetaries, is maintained by DoD for its own purposes beyond recognition of the citizen-soldier. You bet it sells plots to sell plots. Some citizen-soliders, I'm one, wish to have no association with military monuments due to inside knowledge of what the military and its advocates are up to. Better to be buried unmarked in potter's field than near the grotesque themepark of The Unknown Soldier and its strutting guards. I wonder if any of the dead, if they had a say, would wish to be used for that purpose, or if its only the families and patriotic hustlers who have a stake in prettifying the horrible truth: that giving one's life, a leg, an arm, a belief in valor and sacrifice, for a treacherous, militaristic nation and economy is a nasty deal, no matter how it's monumentalized with zillions of white headstones arrayed in sylvan vales like gullible soldiers going to kill and die in bloody ignorance. Even morons grasp that these dishonorable plots are recruiting scams cooked up by the living up to no good. Excuse me for losing it, don't want a war over honor, some pissed vet to gore me with his pegleg badge of valor, some chickenshit reservist to earn a stripe.
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Even morons grasp that these dishonorable plots are recruiting scams cooked up by the living up to no good.
Excuse me for losing it, don't want a war over honor, some pissed vet to gore me with his pegleg badge of valor, some chickenshit reservist to earn a stripe.
hell, no! I did mine, gave it all I had in the face of it until the youthful idealism from the farm (despite Harvard) was shot and the pure bullshit of the American ideal was exposed as the world's bully --at least you knew where the commies were; our great American idealistic motherfuckers were nothing more than an oligarchy of military-industrial opportunists and power freaks. if I had not carried too much rank, they would have assigned me to retrieve the dead from the jungle detail... the ultimate in one way tickets. even if they would pardon me for my sins of telling them to fuck-off, I'll join you in potters' field --probably safer anyway.... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQBVAwUBNHfgqbR8UA6T6u61AQF1WgIAnEy+A73bomNB6mAp2ZAEVag9cS4YMQ4e WOTH6WGwj/1A3Gx1waBzwSPJeXmPxrZBoc5lmgvT7kMO5vbZZZTIRw== =mlf7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Attila T. Hun wrote:
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> was purported to have expostulated to perpetuate an opinion:
Excuse me for losing it, don't want a war over honor, some pissed vet to gore me with his pegleg badge of valor, some chickenshit reservist to earn a stripe.
hell, no! I did mine, gave it all I had in the face of it until the youthful idealism from the farm (despite Harvard) was shot and the pure bullshit of the American ideal was exposed as the world's bully
even if they would pardon me for my sins of telling them to fuck-off, I'll join you in potters' field --probably safer anyway....
And the company is better... Excerpt from WebWorld: My only hope, is that I can find the strength of character somewhere inside myself to ask the question which lies at the heart of why there is a 'they' to come for me at all...why, in the end, it has finally come to this for me, as for countless others. The question is, in retrospect, as simple and basic as it is essential for any who still espouse the concepts of freedom and liberty to ask themselves upon finding themselves marveling at the outrageousness being perpetrated upon their neighbors by 'them'...by 'others'...by 'Friends of the Destroyer.' The question is: "Why didn't _I_ do something?" These are the words that legend ascribes to the tombstone erected in a 'potters field' outside of the B.TV city of Austin, Texas. The tombstone, according to historians who have verified it's existence, though it was removed after being in place for less than twenty-four hours, was supposedly that of Vice-Admiral B. D'Shauneaux. And the ultimate irony, for those whose cry of lament remains, "Why didn't somebody 'do' something?", lies in the empty grave lying next to that purported to be the Vice-Admiral's final resting place-the grave which, legend has it, is reserved for the last free man or woman remaining on this planet. The grave whose headstone is a plain and simple mirror. Legend has it that, at dusk during the spring equinox, that one who gazes into the mirror will hear the sound of the Vice-Admiral's voice echoing through the labyrinth of the communal mind of mankind, whispering as if it were a gentle breeze rustling softly through the leaves of the aged willows surrounding the site. It is a voice tinged with an equal mixture of conscience and remorse. It is a voice that whispers, quite simply, "Why didn't I do something?"
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