In a message dated 98-03-19 05:36:18 EST, jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu writes: << How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan? The effects are showing... >> That, my fellow cypherpunks, was known as a 'ad hominem' attack (an attack on (supposed) character, because Ken Williams is too STUPID (after all, he's a "Know-nothing") to be able to attack what I've said.) Stan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, StanSquncr wrote:
In a message dated 98-03-19 05:36:18 EST, jkwilli2@unity.ncsu.edu writes:
<< How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan? The effects are showing... >>
That, my fellow cypherpunks, was known as a 'ad hominem' attack (an attack on (supposed) character, because Ken Williams is too STUPID (after all, he's a "Know-nothing") to be able to attack what I've said.)
Actually, I believe it was because what you said was too stupid to be attacked.. no offense. The thread was about TEMPEST-related EMR. .. and your quote in question was:
BUT, even the fastest electronics cannot respond fast enough to the initial spike, if that spike is too high in the first place (if your incoming power lines get hit by lightning, for instance), it's already too late. My suggestion, don't trust a UPS to eliminate spikes, get it if you anticipate a need for back-up power to shut down your system in case of black-out (and screw the surge protectors, trust the filtering in your power supply to do that for you.)
See.. now.. you're clearly talking about power protection.. but, you see we _weren't_ talking about power outages, we were talking about compromising emanations being sent through power lines.. and as far as the UPS goes, whether or not a UPS would help such muffle such emanations. Two completely different things. You may as well have said "Yeah, UPS is great. They have good rates on ground shipping." In which case the response of..
<< How many times have you been struck by lightning, Stan? The effects are showing... >>
..might well be appropriate. Michael J. Graffam (mgraffam@mhv.net) http://www.mhv.net/~mgraffam -- Philosophy, Religion, Computers, Crypto, etc I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNRGo0wKEiLNUxnAfAQHdjAP/QZALkfNwMGXqtoJLSdhhisAclmfDJiON P0WCSLG2fKhIAs3U54nIFEv/jxootQNZAHEG+/0xfw7NxhuBnphpAyIJ73qpUmee 9xdK7JcjcIgAwRAdbg9dBuWdMs+aIJFIS/ijMffbEy79EHGLvRV4LLRrV5m3A46k DxqIjpQKzZM= =y8Q+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
some protection is better than none. my roommate and I have our computers in the same room off of the same outlet but my computer has an UPS and his does not. During a storm, lightning hit near the apartment building and it took out his computer but not mine. But I do have a friend who lost his computer to a direct strike to the power lines and it took out the surge strip as well. At least in my case, it was not a direct strike into the power lines but what happened to my roommate made him get an UPS to at least have some protection next time. At least he will not have to possibly shell out another $1,500 for another computer.
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