Re: Trigger-Words...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, harka@nycmetro.com queried:
Actually, I might not have chosen the correct words for what I wanted... I am looking for sniffer-programs, that analyze e-mail traffic on the Net and filtering out all e-mails potentially interesting for _intelligence services_. For example, I've heard, that if an e-mail contains the words: "assassinate President" (DISCLAIMER: I hope, our President lives a long and happy life, even after his impeachment...:)), it will automatically get filtered and checked out by the Secret Service. Different intelligence agencies might have similar things in place. Where could I get some more information about that?
Many Un*xes (SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, Linux, and probably others) have included their own versions of sniffers, supposedly for network debugging. These are typically called something like "tcpdump", "etherfind", "snoop", etc. You would need to run a sniffer at a "choke point" of an organisation, for example the external router to the Internet, to capture all of the packets to / from that organisation. Putting a sniffer on some arbitrary router out there in cloud-land would probably not be all that productive, since there's no guarantee that all of the IP packets carrying a given TCP connection would take the same route. Cynthia -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: cp850 iQCVAwUBMvSyq5Og7xGCJGQtAQFJPwQAiXbxtfdfVEDL5ZHdktdy6bfH/Wmio3oU J1bYKpfwY4H4NnIoXipGF+oo48Pe4j8x46UneVZ8d4ZsSy93/JsvmQw38TxSj/8o cPbtIaagBw9eofsdimzlwx9Y0VvaTRWt+2Cjd8aQKmG5nwUBSF9BlFoX2/TU3QZY IP+hiecLaag= =rHlB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =============================================================== Cynthia H. Brown Ottawa, Ontario, Canada E-mail: cynthb@sonetis.com Home Page: http://www.sonetis.com/~cynthb/ PGP Key: See Home Page Junk mail will be ignored in the order in which it is received. It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing is true or not, so long as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your money as long as you have got it. - Edmund Way Teale, "Circle of the Seasons"
Cynthia H. Brown wrote:
You would need to run a sniffer at a "choke point" of an organisation, for example the external router to the Internet, to capture all of the packets to / from that organisation. Putting a sniffer on some arbitrary router out there in cloud-land would probably not be all that productive, since there's no guarantee that all of the IP packets carrying a given TCP connection would take the same route.
Cynthia
Junk mail will be ignored in the order in which it is received.
It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing is true or not, so long as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your money as long as you have got it.
- Edmund Way Teale, "Circle of the Seasons"
Thats a good thing to say. I wonder howcom no one on this list figures that all the cool things they say at the end should be thoght about when it comes to what everyones doing on the list, with all the carp and the like. (I maeant _crap_) Everyone talks like their real smart, but I wonder if their not just a bunch of lamers if they cant get their problems fixed without doing all the stuff their mottos and stuff say not to do. I'm on some lists run by kids and they don't tell anyone to shut up but they still dont have to get all that stuff from the guys advrtising because the kids running it know how to use their computers. It sounds like a bunch of old guys on this list, since they don't think someone should be called a dork when they _are_ one. If their old then maybe they could ask their kids how to get rid of all the lamer-stuff. But if they just want the other guys on the list to shut up then their lamer-guys themselves, probablly7. I guess all the Canadian guys are on the flame list, eh?, because they're all hockey players. I'm only on the list because I got a bunch of your mail that someone put _fuck_you_ at the top, and when I tracked him down and gave him hell, he used my internet guys to send bogus posts to you guys. My uncle got on his machine and fixed it so it sends itself the Ping of Death from a remailer. Hes been doing that for years, but only to lamers who screw with him, otherwise he minds his own business. Theres not many girls on this list, is there? Do you spit or swallow? (Thats a joke---you dont have to answer) Are you married? I bet the guys on the list dont like it because you sound a whole lot smarter than a lot of them. Old guys think that girls arent good with computers, except for my uncle. He has to give a forteen year old girl on my list a hundred dollars because she got the Ping Of Death past his firewall when his buddies at Lost Alamo New Mexico couldnt, and their supposed to be experts because they belong to secret stuff and some of them are cypherpunks, too, but they don't let anyone know about it. Anyway, myu ncle prints out the girl-cypherpunks stuff for the girls on my list and they think its real cool and they all want to marry technicians so that they can make them work on the computers for them, kind of like making them do the computer dishes, you know. I'm supossed to be in bed, but Im not, but I have to go. My uncle is going to be mad when he finds out I'mn on cypherpunks but the rule is that if I get on his secret machine I can do anything I want to. When his machine boots Duke Nukem 3D is going to boot up and he's going to be really m-bare-assed. He will shit when he finds out I'm on cypherpunks list but it was because of him that the guy started sending me all that junk from you so he cant say nothing. (I hope!!!!) He could whack those guys sending you penis drawings and stuff, because he had his friends at Lost Alamo set up some remailers or get into them or something to find out who it was, but hes not supposed to interfere with your stuff but just watch and give people hints of stuff they already know and stuff like that. He says you guys arent lamers (even if you cant keep penis drawings off your machine) but just dont care anymore about fixing your problems yourself. I still think that you should just let your kids run your machine or just pick the guy with the coolest name, like Attila the Hun or Genocide or OttOmatic. I've got to go to bed really! p.s. - My lists go t mail from fuck@yourself.up too but we didn't _run_ his stuff, and were only kids. My uncle says you guys did. (I wont call you guys a _lamer_ cause that would make me a _flamer_) p.p.s. -> It is morally as bad not to care whether a thing
is true or not, so long as it makes you feel good, as it is not to care how you got your _list_ as long as you have got it.
- B. D'Shauneaux, "Circle of the Eunuchs"
(You guys should really read your own scrips at the end of your messages sometimes and see if your doing it yourselfs) Goodnight, you have a nice name and I bet your pretty too. Human Gus-Peter
Larry Johnson wrote:
Cynthia H. Brown wrote: [snippo] Theres not many girls on this list, is there? [mo' snippo] Anyway, my uncle prints out the girl-cypherpunks stuff for the girls on my list and they think its real cool and they all want to marry technicians so that they can make them work on the computers for them, kind of like making them do the computer dishes, you know. [yet mo' snippo]
I want to get married. Lots of times. Are the girls cute? I don't do hardware, tho, I'm a software guy.
Dale Thorn wrote:
Larry Johnson wrote:
Cynthia H. Brown wrote: [snippo] Theres not many girls on this list, is there? [mo' snippo] Anyway, my uncle prints out the girl-cypherpunks stuff for the girls on my list and they think its real cool and they all want to marry technicians so that they can make them work on the computers for them, kind of like making them do the computer dishes, you know. [yet mo' snippo]
I want to get married. Lots of times. Are the girls cute? I don't do hardware, tho, I'm a software guy.
Yeah their real cute, most of them anyway. Their all nice though. Some of them would like you cause they dont like regular guys, cause their troublemakers too. I know your a troublemaker (I think thats a good thing) because Ive read your stuff and myu uncle keeps you in his NotADork/MyAssholes dir. Thats where he keeps the troublemakers but its not an insult because he likes what Kevin (hes a Bodston Celtic said--"Danny Ange is an asshole, but hes _our_ asshole." He taght me how to read by using the Froggie manual since I could boot it myself when he was out of the rooom when I was two year old. Now he teachs me how to read with the cypherpunk messages and stuff from his govbernment friends. (Their good government guys though, they like you guys. Their really secret guys not lamer regualar secret guys. They laugh at those regular secret guys who screw with you guys cause they leave their pecker tracks all over the place.) Some people thik Im a lamer cause Im not good with grammer (not on the kids lists thogh) bu tmy uncle says Ill learn how to do that but Im better to learn how tho think first. Ive got dsylexia too so I use a spell checkerif I want to look smart but emailers dont have it. You guyhs should keep being troublemakers. Really. My uncle says that if you guys get too polite then you better watcvh your backs when you curtsy, cause you never know whos sneaking up behind you. He told me that if I watch you rmodernation that I wont have to have sex educaton laterer cause I'll already know how to get f*)&%ed. (Hes funny. His governmnt friends call him the fool becaise hes dumb like a fox.) Excuse my spelling but I spell things good once I see them in a dir cause myu uncle make s me look stuff up before I put it in a dir or he erases myu dir to make me learn. I think the girls would like you cause yuou are a computer guy. Ill show them your letter. Theeir smart, too. They dont like lamer guys. When their school computer guy messes up ecveyones stuff then they fix it but they dont tell him cause it makes him mad. Im not real good at 4reading code and stuff but the secret computer guys let me drink Scotch with them evcen in the bar at the Holiday In in Santafe cause Im smarter than them abou t som e stuff even if they are really good. (I go tm y uncles password on his secret machine by putting my video camera on the frige with a dead battery and pluging it into his power supply) (Now when he boots up he will getr Duke Nukem3D and when he leacves it he will get a message telling him hes a _lamer_.) He had to go to Lost Alamo again because of you guys and hell gibve me sh*&)( when he gets back but not too much cause he said I could do anything I want on his secret machine if I got on it. Im getting to play with Unix cause he has a Spark Card on it that has Unix on it. (Dos is for lamers but Bill Gates owns ecerything so its cheaper for kids) Some lamer said on cypherpunks today that it takes him an hour to get the pecker messages off his computer. My uncle has me to do it for him sometimes and it only take me like maybve two minutes. If the guy is such a lmaer that it take s hinm an hour then maybe he should just read only the pecker messages cause they have pictures and then when he mobes his lips to read then he coul d put them on the peckers. (Thats a joke) I like that Tim May is bacvk, if only even for a little while. When you guys fight at least you say stuff that isnt kissing ass for other guys money. Im going to make a message to cypherpunsk that says if anyone wants me to be their moderator then they should not write any messages to the cypherpunks. Then the 2000 people who dont post will be voting for me to be their moderator and I will be their boss. If Im the moderator then I will givbe everyone free pizz a and lots and lots of Scotch. (<--Dewars) I hope you guys stay together. My uncle says sometimes you learn by looking and sometimes you leran by seeing whos looking back. But he tells the secret gobvernmetn guys not to look back cause their might be a cypherpunk gaining on them. (Thats a joke) Ive got to go to bed so I can pretned to get up again. Im sick so I can do what I want bu t Im not supposed to stya up all night either. I wont let the door hit me in the ass on my wayout. Bye, Human Gus-Peter p.s. - dont write me after Thursday cause my dad will be back and Ill get in trouble. My uncle will help me clean u p my mess cause hes not a squealer.
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Cynthia H. Brown
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Dale Thorn
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lwjohnson@grill.sk.ca