Message-Id / mail2news gateways.
This is for all the volunteers who are working on setting up the distributed cypherpunks mailing lists. 1) Please preserver Message-Ids while resending messages. The Message-Id is intended to be unique to a message and can be used to reject duplicates. Usenet software in particular, detects duplicates by Message-Id. 2) In response to Igor's query, I would very much like at least on of the distributed lists to be set up such that messages sent there will *not* be gatewayed to Usenet. As I mentioned, I will not post to Usenet with my real email address, and if all lists get gatewayed to alt.cypherpunks, I have to set up fake email headers to mail to the lists also. If at least one of the lists can gaurantee that it won't be gatewayed to Usenet, I don't have to do that, and as a nice bonus, Prof. Froomkin can continue to be active on cypherpunks. This can be achieved by the list software adding an "X-Post-to-Usenet: No" or some similar header to every message it sends out. Also a header, such as X-List: should be set to indicate under which mailing list a message first entered the system. This will be worthless unless all the list servers honor these headers. Thanks. -- Anil Das
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:59 PM 2/17/97 -0800, Anil Das wrote:
1) Please preserver Message-Ids while resending messages.
Yes, this is absolutely crucial if many different systems are going to cooperatively deal with messages. Message-ID changing is very bad. I sent a Perl script to Lance (copies to others on request) which can be easily used as the target of an /etc/aliases entry to gate a mailing list into inews (and thereby into INN) for processing as a netnews message. (The script preserves Message-ID.) If we preserve Message-ID's, many sites can have local mail-news gateways, and we won't (globally) see duplicates.
2) In response to Igor's query, I would very much like at least on of the distributed lists to be set up such that messages sent there will *not* be gatewayed to Usenet.
I don't think this is practical - as I understand things, the corpus (bolus?) of messages will be available to all comers for their own projects, which may include mail-news gateways, archives, filtered lists, and so forth(*). People who send messages to the list shouldn't expect that they'll have any "privacy" in information sent there. (* Modulo copyright, but apparently the industry standards for copyright issues are: 1. Ignore them and hope they go away 2. Pretend to seize control over IP rights of everything posted neither of which works very well or makes any sense, legally speaking.) For what it's worth, the list has been gated to two public newsgroups - albeit not in the Big 7 or alt. - for quite some time. If you think your name isn't on Usenet, and you've been sending messages to the list, think again. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQEVAgUBMwl1KP37pMWUJFlhAQHr+Qf+Jpo20Rl9RWAtsWFu7uJ2TYvIySYxrqCi A0Ac54oQSuuzYV6diH+pddilzTSjNS9DgVRC/lkC1C64cIZLp9fb1I3gX25Wfyns DnUvXPRLAD3A54imgkVxojr3ywD8YIn1QqQlVfh2yazJ6ysf0rFgQFcm3mMZxDqx 3MTl5x4sFo/CQPmYtGamZXEC59U2KW3iOaMiIESX3BjaK/92w9ptP44L0KqNcFqI tpNlUwmjXlqi1CTInVnVUHT79pF/OCYwxzbb0hPL4OcSlEZGPcj8cf/KGKL3cyBp hzIgjGPlfklXjCbvGBwi/9NUJEu9ARJVM+4Ie6ajDQWlzgPTO7w2zw== =wifQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles@netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |
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