Let me guess...is Wired going to run Sterling's talk (or a variant thereof) to counter Baker's 6.5 lies about false myths about Clipper? I happy to see that he skewered the pedophile boogeyman, but... Sterling plays right into their hands when he goes on about terrorist governments, etc. The Clipper debate is about U.S. citizens and internal policy--not about how we shouldn't be worried about our government because it isn't as totalitarian as others. That's all besides the point because the cat is already out of the bag and there is nothing to stop it--the NSA can merely slow down the use (expansion) of encryption at the cost of lost profits to U.S. companies. Paul E. Baclace peb@netcom.com