Z.B. wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Name Withheld by Request wrote:

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John Gilmore said:

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Perhaps at that point I should have shut down the list, as Lucky is now suggesting. "Asking the list what to do" was clearly not a useful option. Sandy cared enough about the community to make some concrete

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Not a useful option? Why not? If there aren't any ideas left in this community, I'm with Lucky. Pull the plug.

On the below: Remember in "I, Mudd" where the Captain said to Rodney the Robot: "I'm lying - everything I say is a lie". And the robot collapses because it is not programmed to handle such blatant acts of sabotage of reality. Humans OTOH, and particular those who do odd jobs for the CIA (you know, the ones who make those little "excursions" to Nepal and Burma), have no problem with this, since their reality doesn't even intersect with that of typical mailing list readers. What is Tim May really mad about? What he says he's mad about? I don't think so. The scam ran past him and he fell off of the truck. Tsk tsk.

I've been meaning to ask this for a while...but why *don't* we just pull the plug, at least for just a few days? Unsubscribe everyone from all the lists, wait a bit, and then send a message to all of the subscribers with full info on each of the lists (cp, cp-unedited,cp-flames) and see what happens when they resubscribe. I bet that most of the people who don't post and don't care one way or the other wouldn't bother to resubscribe, so we'd have a higher ratio of people who mind if the list is moderated vs. those who'd be happy either