More on crypto from Bonn

Another story in today's FINANCIAL TIMES http://www.FT.com describes a "clash" between USCommerce Sec'y Daley and German economic minister Rexrodt on strong crypto. Because the speakers' choices of words are interesting, I quote from the FT article by Ralph Atkins: On coding technology, however, Mr Daley insisted, "there are certain legitimate areas where governments have to be involved". Encryption should be used to protect credit card numbers or detailed contracts from being read. But, he went on: "We must also make sure national security is safeguarded by applying those rules sensibly, so that potential terrorists or other sophisticated criminals cannot hide their work." Mr Rexrodt hinted the European ministers regarded US policy on exporting encryption technology as discriminatory. He backed "strong" encryption procedures, which he said were "offering users the only protection that they have, the only certainty, that their data is not going to be divulged or misused on open networks". Mr Rexrodt was backed by Mr Ron Sommer, chairman of Deutsche Telekom, Europe's largest telecommunications group, who said: "Anyone who uses the point of public security as an argument in this [encryption] issue has not realised or acknowledged that any such legal requirements stand in the way of the further spread of electronic commerce." Questions for the reader: What's a "potential" terrorist? (Is the occasional apparent c'punx paranoia justified?) How is the US export policy discriminatory? Why is DT coming out on this issue? Who are their strategic partners for ecommerce among US telecomms? (I'll have to ask around about that ...) cheers ......................................... Donald Weightman dweightman@radix.net

In message <3.0.16.19970709093445.23d7be9e@pop.radix.net>, Donald Weightman writes:
What's a "potential" terrorist? (Is the occasional apparent c'punx paranoia justified?)
I suspect "potential terrorist" is like "alleged criminal"; it's a CYA statement. I also think it's particularly amusing that an American is lecturing a German about terrorism. Who has more experience with the subject, anyway? Sheesh. -- Harald Koch <chk@utcc.utoronto.ca>

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In message <3.0.16.19970709093445.23d7be9e@pop.radix.net>, Donald Weightman writes: >
What's a "potential" terrorist? (Is the occasional apparent c'punx paranoia justified?)
I suspect "potential terrorist" is like "alleged criminal"; it's a CYA statement.
I also think it's particularly amusing that an American is lecturing a German about terrorism. Who has more experience with the subject, anyway?
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In message <3.0.16.19970709093445.23d7be9e@pop.radix.net>, Donald Weightman writes:
What's a "potential" terrorist? (Is the occasional apparent c'punx paranoia justified?)
I also think it's particularly amusing that an American is lecturing a German about terrorism. Who has more experience with the subject, anyway?
From which side?

What's a "potential" terrorist?
I suspect "potential terrorist" is like "alleged criminal"; it's a CYA statement.
No, they're much different. An "alleged criminal" is a specific person who may have really done something illegal, but you're covering yourself against lawsuits because you haven't yet proven they're guilty in court. A "potential terrorist" is a bogeyman to scare the public with, who may or may not exist, and who hasn't done anything scary himself yet. An "alleged terrorist" is a specific person who may be the one who did some terrorist action. On the other hand, a gang of thugs threatening to destroy all life on the planet are simply referred to as "The Pentagon".... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list or news, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)
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