Re: [NOISE] The Iron Mountain Report

At 09:33 PM 4/24/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote:
The author of the Iron Mountain Report was interviewed on PBS a few weeks ago. It was a really over-the-top parody published in 1967.
That's _Nationalized_ Public Radio; any conspiracy that couldn't get somebody on their denying that they were the secret power behind the government is obviously not competent to be the _real_ secret power behind the government. The interview just shows how pervasive they are. :-) Meanwhile, Robert Ludlum's got a new book out, doing another "hidden Nazis-will-rise-again" conspiracy. It's ok, though not as good as his best work. Among other events, the disinformation leaked out by the Neo-Nazis frames many prominent people as Nazis, a critical few of whom really are. And there's a bad parody of a fat talk-show host somewhat to the right of Attila the Hun (Caller: "Double whippo, Arnie!") who gets framed on the air...
Every once in a while, I get mail asking whether I really have contacts in Sendero Luminoso, since a bit of satire I wrote was quoted in the Web Review (which made no attempt to contact me before printing the satire as my position).
Foo - even I've had contacts in the Sendero Luminoso, though they all would have strictly denied it - they were just "good Socialist college students" and "immigrant refugees" from Peru, which _does_ have a fairly brutal and sleazy elected dictator. Not everybody in the anti-war business is pro-peace.
Truth is far more fragile than fiction. Sure, cause fiction's supposed to make sense. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215

On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Bill Stewart wrote:
Meanwhile, Robert Ludlum's got a new book out, doing another "hidden Nazis-will-rise-again" conspiracy. It's ok, though not as good as his best work. Among other events, the disinformation leaked out by the Neo-Nazis frames many prominent people as Nazis, a critical few of whom really are. And there's a bad parody of a fat talk-show host somewhat to the right of Attila the Hun (Caller: "Double whippo, Arnie!") who gets framed on the air...
That's funny; maybe I'll check it out in my spare time. Yeah, right. The scary thing is, there are people who actually BELIEVE that shit. Or, from the "other side," Clancy's rants, or The Turner Diaries, or Marx's poor algebra in Das Kapital. You shouldn't base your life on fiction. I'd guess that there are no more than 5,000 serious Nazis left in the whole world who actually favor totalitarianism and genocide. It's quite obvious who they are. They're not a threat, but it's probably good to harry them, because otherwise, they might become a threat. (The 5K estimate does *not* include other totalitarian/genocidal movements, and I'm not interested in debating parallels. When I say "Nazi," which is pretty rare, I mean "Nazi," someone who has read and agrees with the "Nation and Race" chapter of Mein Kampf.) Disinformation is stronger than a lot of people think. Or maybe I'm just saying that :-)
Foo - even I've had contacts in the Sendero Luminoso, though they all would have strictly denied it - they were just "good Socialist college students" and "immigrant refugees" from Peru, which _does_ have a fairly brutal and sleazy elected dictator. Not everybody in the anti-war business is pro-peace.
My academic work involved Latin American revolutionary movements. I have some idea.
Truth is far more fragile than fiction. Sure, cause fiction's supposed to make sense.
Never thought of it that way, but I believe that's the crux of the problem... -rich http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html
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