At 11:46 AM 11/30/95, sameer wrote:

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What about a court order to (a) start comprehensive logging, and (b) not tell anyone under penalty of ______ .

Aren't court orders part of the public record? I don't quite know how this would work. I don't think they can keep me from telling people that I've started comprehensive logging, or at least keep it from being founnd out. (Legally, that is. I'm sure they could always use an approach like threatening to audit me every year, threatening my family, etc.)

In fact, most forms of recording need willing participation by at least one party. Wiretaps are the main method of recording information which doesn't involve willing participation of one of those communicating. Since there are no laws regarding participation of service providers assisting the government at gathering information, there is a great deal of leeway legally. If they actually pass a law (as in Penn) regarding ISP obligations it'll probably be fought a bit, but does then put more stress on the situation. Jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ..Jonathan Zamick Consensus Development Corporation.. ..<JonathanZ@consensus.com> 1563 Solano Ave, #355.. .. Berkeley, CA 94707-2116.. .. o510/559-1500 f510/559-1505.. ..Mosaic/WWW Home Page: .. .. Consensus Home Page ..