Fred Cohen: Re: CFS and Linux
More Fun from Fred. For those that haven't been following, he threatened to sue me for quoting an Alice post as "Alice B. Cohen", and threatened to have his attorneys seize the machines the cypherpunks mailing lists run on for being part of a "criminal conspiracy" against him. Perry ------- Forwarded Message From: fc@all.net (Fred Cohen) Message-Id: <9512231834.AA23326@all.net> Subject: Re: CFS and Linux To: perry@piermont.com Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 13:34:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199512231833.NAA07171@jekyll.piermont.com> from "Perry E. Metzger" at Dec 23, 95 01:33:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text X-UIDL: 819744158.001
Fred Cohen writes:
The dollar value would be $1 plus a public apology plus all costs of the suit plus my time to right the wrong (at my usual fee of course). Of course the fact that you have decided to make this posting in public justifies my extensive efforts to clear my reputation which, unless you apologize immediately will be surprisingly enjoyable for me.
Go and sue, Fred. Its what I have lawyers for. If you can even find an attorney willing to take your "case", mine will likely remind yours that lawyers can now be punished by the court in many jurisdictions for knowingly aiding in bringing frivolous suits. If you are seeking $1 in damages the court is especially likely to consider the whole thing a waste of time.
Your choice, but it's not a very nice Christmas present to find yourself in litigation. I'll give you till Tuesday to reconsider. If I see the public apology, I won't call the lawyers. If I were you, I would talk to those lawyers of yours and get their opinion of whether it's worth your while to be malicious toward people in this way in exchange for defending against a law suit when all you have to do to prevent it is apologize for what you now know to be a falsehood. - -> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236 ------- End of Forwarded Message
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More Fun from Fred. For those that haven't been following, he threatened to sue me for quoting an Alice post as "Alice B. Cohen", and threatened to have his attorneys seize the machines the cypherpunks mailing lists run on for being part of a "criminal conspiracy" against him.
Perry
Maybe the Jargon File offers some insight: :Mbogo, Dr. Fred: /*m-boh'goh, dok'tr fred/ [Stanford] n. The archetypal man you don't want to see about a problem, esp. an incompetent professional; a shyster. "Do you know a good eye doctor?" "Sure, try Mbogo Eye Care and Professional Dry Cleaning." The name comes from synergy between {bogus} and the original Dr. Mbogo, a witch doctor who was Gomez Addams' physician on the old "Addams Family" TV show. Compare {Bloggs Family, the}, see also {fred}. It all starts to make sense now..... Long Live Procmail! Mail filtering is cool...... =====================PGP Encrypted Mail Preferred======================== PGP Public Keys: 1024/BEB3ED71 & 2047/D9E1F2E9 on request. As soon as any man says of the affairs of the state " What does it matter to me? " the state may be given up for lost. J.J.Rousseau - The Social Contract =========================No Unsolicited Email============================ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: The Gray-haired Woman's Complaint My back aches, my pussy is sore; I simply can't fuck any more; I'm covered with sweat, And Tôu have iQCVAgUBMNxWfrbmxeO+s+1xAQGTzAP/VA7pG3vFTwx+OTS1tNLdua6rgieSPyez eXdVUbVaVqdxCuRwFlpxDbZjKeclx9D3TZyPnnUF/ZDQf/Tb89+d8iLRz3SROVTZ a0RK5tOFB1/E/d4lWK+rtd4q6fB2se1/NGUE5dC7l97njyQfgBJNE8KdZc9lcLNP C3f9b9fgZGM= =zRqP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Fred Cohen writes:
The dollar value would be $1 plus a public apology plus all costs of the suit plus my time to right the wrong (at my usual fee of course). Of course the fact that you have decided to make this posting in public justifies my extensive efforts to clear my reputation which, unless you apologize immediately will be surprisingly enjoyable for me.
Go and sue, Fred. Its what I have lawyers for. If you can even find an attorney willing to take your "case", mine will likely remind yours that lawyers can now be punished by the court in many jurisdictions for knowingly aiding in bringing frivolous suits. If you are seeking $1 in damages the court is especially likely to consider the whole thing a waste of time.
Your choice, but it's not a very nice Christmas present to find yourself in litigation. I'll give you till Tuesday to reconsider. If I see the public apology, I won't call the lawyers.
If I were you, I would talk to those lawyers of yours and get their opinion of whether it's worth your while to be malicious toward people in this way in exchange for defending against a law suit when all you have to do to prevent it is apologize for what you now know to be a falsehood.
How, exactly, does Perry (or anyone else here) "know" it to be a falsehood. Fred denies it. If I was posting anonymously and was accused of being the anonymous poster, I'd deny it too. Oh, I forgot, someone posting as one of the "Alices" denied it too. That makes it conclusive. This anonymity thing is easier than I thought. EBD Not a lawyer on the Net, although I play one in real life. ********************************************************** Flame away! I get treated worse in person every day!!
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