[1] If Joe ComputerUser does not know how to use his computer for more than word processing and playing games, at this point, he probably doesn't NEED PGP. If he knows enough to realize what little privacy he actually has, he will go looking for security. With luck, he will run into someone who can steer him towards PGP... Wow, word processer, so i guess that if you are just using a word processer that you don't need PGP? As usual you distance yourself from computer users by placing youself on a pedistal above them. Why is that? Do you feel superior to them? Is it something that was lacking in your childhood? I bet you could code 500 lines a day when you were in grade school. I bet you never have just used a word processer or played games on a computer? Have you? With luck somebody will give me the winning numbers to the lottery next week, too. And with wings pigs can fly. [2] The purpose of this list is not to insure that everyone has a copy and knows how to use PGP (though most of us would consider that a worthwhile goal). As it has been said more and more often, 'Cypherpunks write CODE!'. This is a discussion group about the practicality and implementation of specific forms of cryptography and cryptographic applications (digital money, key servers, etc). [ This is not to belittle the political content of the group, though. ] Groups like the EFF are interested in helping new users to the Internet learn all about it, and are doing a good job of it so far. If you are that concerned about the masses not knowing about cryptography, try sending a note to the EFF (with the caps lock OFF!) and ask them to include a section on privacy, cryptography and PGP in the next version of the Big Dummy's Guide To The Internet. It's a start. Why should I waste my time? You waste your time by writing crypto that WILL be outlawed and take no action to distribute. And as usual people on here can't see farther than Internet. They really can'nt. Must be a pedistal thing. Why write crypto or even purport it's use if you are to deprive the real people that could aid your cause the use use of "PGP" or other sutible non-CLIPPER cryptography. More people are off Internet than on.? [3] Sending badly composed rants to seven hundred people and then publically posting a response to a private message is not the way to be taken seriously. I thought there was only a couple hundred on this list? cool 700! I have no idea what you mean by public post of private message? -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie@netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS@K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --