At 11:13 PM 6/8/97 -0700, se7en wrote:

[about child pornography on the internet] It is disgustingly real. It is so real it will make you want to throw up, and I actually, physically did throw up last night.

Second, in reference to previous conversation over the years on this list, and in the hacking community in general, I know this type of activity is not tolerated by us.

You are no hacker: You appear to be Rich Graves. Furthermore this activity is tolerated by us. And as usual you are discovering and publicising all sorts of good reasons why the government should supervise us, while piously declaring you are opposed to any such supervision. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd@echeque.com