Re: EMP & Cars (fwd)
From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:48:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> Subject: EMP & Cars (fwd)
There has been quite an interest in EMP.
pulses to a near miss lightning strike. As far as vehicle disabling, There are claims that auto manufactures have built in a shut down frequency into the computers in certain vehicles. We wound a large coil on a carpet paper tube and put an oscillator on it and it would flood a vehicles electrical system to shut it down, but it was huge.
Mind being a little more specific?...
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The easiest way to learn about EMP is to find the International TESLA society web site and interpret the information there.
Some of the best sources are ECM & EECM texts/sites.
While it is a good source of technical info it does take a bull-shit detector set to full to sift through all the other detritis the ITS wallows in. Space aliens, hollow earth, over-unity power, etc.
Ham radio operators have been dealing with this issue for years. There's a lot of (mostly anectodotal) stories of mobile operators keying up their rigs and having either their own or neighbouring cars misfiring or dieing. Shielded ignition cables seem to fix things (though they are actually bought to prevent ignition noise from getting into the radio, not the other way around). Ham operators can use *much* more powerful transmitters than CB or cell phones - my own transceiver puts out 50 watts, but some go a lot higher. It's fairly common for hams to 'test' a prospective car purchase by waving an HT over the engine while transmitting, to see if it has a problem. I suspect that it would be quite possible to build an EMP gun to kill most running cars, but it would also kill anyone with a pacemaker. I'm more worried about the current trend towards placing remotely controlled electronics in cars. Already, one US manufacturer offers as an option a satellite reciever which (among other things) can unlock the car remotely if you lock it in the car accidentally. I have no idea how much authentication is required for such a request, but I'm sure car theives are looking into it. To defend against this, I expect next years model will also allow the car to be turned off by remote control, or turn on a tracking device. The popular 'Lojak' car tracking system has similar civil liberties issues. I understand that the car owner has no control over it's activation, can't disable it, and there is no indication that it is in operation.Apparently all the "authorities" need to turn it on is the VIN. Peter Trei N1MNV
The popular 'Lojak' car tracking system has similar civil liberties issues. I understand that the car owner has no control over it's activation, can't disable it, and there is no indication that it is in operation.Apparently all the "authorities" need to turn it on is the VIN.
Lojak, like uses a pager frequency to activate the transponder. It is easy and inexpensive to build a low-power de-activating transmitter, operated in or near the car, to jam the pager receiver and prevent the unit's operation. --Steve PGP mail preferred, see http://www.pgp.com and http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html RSA PGP Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear (N7ZEZ) | Internet: azur@netcom.com 7075 West Gowan Road | Voice: 1-702-658-2654 Suite 2148 | Fax: 1-702-658-2673 Las Vegas, NV 89129 | economic and crypto dissident --------------------------------------------------------------------- The push by western governments for financial transparency and banning unrestricted use of cryptography is blatent politicial tyranny. Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell
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