2nd edition Puzzle Palace?
Applied Cryptography references a 2nd edition of The Puzzle Palace by Bamford and Madsen, 1995, but I can't seem to find it in any of the bookstores in Austin. Has it been published? Thanks, - Bill ...... "Do, or do not. There is no try." - Yoda ..... William I. MacGregor Austin Product Center - Research phone (1-512) 331-3733 P.O. Box 200015 fax (1-512) 331-3760 Austin, TX 78720
At 9:19 AM -0600 10/30/96, William I. MacGregor wrote:
Applied Cryptography references a 2nd edition of The Puzzle Palace by Bamford and Madsen, 1995, but I can't seem to find it in any of the bookstores in Austin. Has it been published? Thanks,
Read Ernest Hua's message from yesterday about this. He quoted an EE Times article which said, in part:
From EE Times
October 21, 1996 Issue: 924 Section: Design -- Computers & Communications Required reading By Loring Wirbel ..... Cryptography buffs have been waiting for relief in the form of the third edition of James Bamford's classic The Puzzle Palace, on the workings of the NSA. The new edition is supposed to contain material from co-author Wayne Madsen detailing NSA presence at Internet switching centers, and cipherpunks have been disappointed that the book didn't meet its June release date. Rumor has it that squabbles between the two authors and the publisher may push the book out well into 1997. --end excerpt--- --Tim May "The government announcement is disastrous," said Jim Bidzos,.."We warned IBM that the National Security Agency would try to twist their technology." [NYT, 1996-10-02] We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
At 3:10 AM +0000 10/31/96, Carol Harris wrote:
However, there does appear to be a 1993 edition of the book. Perhaps this is what Mr. Schneier was referencing? I happened to be at Borders bookstore in Austin this afternoon and checked. They don't have it but will special order it.
On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:42:39 -0800, Tim May wrote:
At 9:19 AM -0600 10/30/96, William I. MacGregor wrote:
Applied Cryptography references a 2nd edition of The Puzzle Palace by Bamford and Madsen, 1995, but I can't seem to find it in any of the bookstores in Austin. Has it been published? Thanks,
Read Ernest Hua's message from yesterday about this. He quoted an EE Times article which said, in part:
No, I doubt this is what folks are referring to when they talk about the forthcoming "Second Edition." I bought the 1982 hardback of Bamford, in 1982 (even before I really knew crypto issues were of such interest to me...quite possibly reading Bamford helped prepare me). A paperback edition came out a year or two later, with some added material. But it was--so far as I know--still the First Edition. The long-awaited Second Edition will be a major rewrite, as noted in the various comments over the past couple of years. --Tim May "The government announcement is disastrous," said Jim Bidzos,.."We warned IBM that the National Security Agency would try to twist their technology." [NYT, 1996-10-02] We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
However, there does appear to be a 1993 edition of the book. Perhaps this is what Mr. Schneier was referencing? I happened to be at Borders bookstore in Austin this afternoon and checked. They don't have it but will special order it. On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:42:39 -0800, Tim May wrote:
At 9:19 AM -0600 10/30/96, William I. MacGregor wrote:
Applied Cryptography references a 2nd edition of The Puzzle Palace by Bamford and Madsen, 1995, but I can't seem to find it in any of the bookstores in Austin. Has it been published? Thanks,
Read Ernest Hua's message from yesterday about this. He quoted an EE Times article which said, in part:
(snip of Mr. Hua's message) Carol Harris <charris@eden.com> Keyprint: BF E4 61 D5 43 35 EB 62 56 CA EB 17 B8 56 C3 A2
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