PGP 5.0 keyserver
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Electronic Frontiers Georgia has set up a key repository for PGP type keys. This is part of a pilot project based on Georgia's New Digital Signature Law. We are still beta testing the keyserver, and invite people to try it out. The results of our testing will be presented at the Digital Signature Task Force meeting on June 24th. To access the keyserver, change your PGP5.0 preferences to point to keys.efga.org This is a closed keyserver, in that keys do not replicate to non EFGA keyservers. If this model is successful, this will help move Georgia to a position of being pro-strong encryption. Right now the server may only accept keys through the PGPkeys interface. We appreciate comments from experienced PGP users. Comments may be sent to myself, or to keymaster@efga.org Thanks, -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM4s5Q0GpGhRXg5NZAQFjiAH7BAzoxSFvyXUOt06nN5yZOyf4As198E9D gtNDqiqmux5SYuqoqBi7oiHEKNyphJOJEhMO+J2BVw8GGdWYMWtmRA== =BZXE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 3:43 PM -0400 5/27/97, Robert A. Costner wrote:
Electronic Frontiers Georgia has set up a key repository for PGP type keys. This is part of a pilot project based on Georgia's New Digital Signature Law. We are still beta testing the keyserver, and invite people to try it out. The results of our testing will be presented at the Digital Signature Task Force meeting on June 24th. ...>This is a closed keyserver, in that keys do not replicate to non EFGA keyservers. If this model is successful, this will help move Georgia to a position of being pro-strong encryption.
Right now the server may only accept keys through the PGPkeys interface. We appreciate comments from experienced PGP users. Comments may be sent to myself, or to keymaster@efga.org
But as Robert knows more directly than I, Georgia also has the "anonymity is a crime" laws on the books (an article excerpt is below...doing a search on Georgia and anonynimity will turn up a lot of articles). One of the articles: "ACLU Sues Georgia for Restricting Free Speech "[September 26] -- This week the American Civil Liberties Union, Electronic Frontiers Georgia, Georgia State Representative Mitchell Kaye (R-Marietta), and others filed suit against the state of Georgia for restricting free online speech. "The Georgia statute makes it illegal for users to assume online anonymous personas or pseudonyms. The statute also restricts the use of linking to other sites on the Web. " So, what will happen if people, entities, remailers, pseudonyms, etc.. submit keys to this EFF-Georgia repository without providing SS number, passport, mother's maiden name, etc.? (Will Georgia seek the BlackNet operator's extradition for not complying with Georgia's law when he submits the BlackNet key? Does the Georgia EFF plan to enforce the Georgia law?) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
At 5:15 PM -0400 5/27/97, Robert A. Costner wrote:
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At 01:36 PM 5/27/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
But as Robert knows more directly than I, Georgia also has the "anonymity is a crime" laws on the books ... So, what will happen if people, entities, remailers, pseudonyms, etc.. submit keys to this EFF-Georgia repository without providing SS number, passport, mother's maiden name, etc.?
If Tim read the article he quoted from, he will notice that EFGA has sued the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I read the whole thing, and several other articles. I even indicated I knew you knew a lot about this case when I specifically said "But as Robert knows more directly than I.." Fucking A, what more do you want? My point had nothing to do with whether you or EF-GA was involved in a suit to overturn the law. If the law is still in force, whether EF-GA is currently suing has nothing to do with my point about enforcement of the law, and penalties for violation. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
At 5:05 PM -0700 5/27/97, Bill Stewart wrote:
It's not really a big problem - the law doesn't forbid the EFF to accept anonymously submitted communications, it only forbids Subjects of the State of Georgia to send them.
(Will Georgia seek the BlackNet operator's extradition for not complying with Georgia's law when he submits the BlackNet key? Does the Georgia EFF plan to enforce the Georgia law?)
If you don't provide enough address information along with your key for the Cracker Police to find your True Name and hunt you down, that's just a shame, now isn't it... especially if the EFGA doesn't file a complaint about it. Besides, how can they extradite someone they can't find - send polite diplomatic notes to all the governments in the world asking them to find some unknown character for them? "Please extradite the usual suspects!"
I see this point of view expressed here often, the "they can't catch you so don't worry about the law," and "they won't be able to get California to extradite you." First, I don't happen to think this particular law, even if not overturned, is likely to see much enforcement, even in Georgia. However, the large point remains. And I'm less persuaded than Bill is that such laws are ipso facto ignorable. I'd hate to be changing planes at Hartsfield (the big hub airport in Atlanta) and have their computers flag me as having violated their law at some time in the past. (Why would they bother? Who knows. Maybe a shakedown, like a speeding ticket. Maybe orders from elsewhere. The point is that they don't have to _extradite_ nonresidents to have them feel the force of the law.) Oh, and any company doing business in Georgia would be a point where legal pressure s could be applied. Any large company would have to take this law into account, and could not just cheerfully cite Bill's casual dismissal. (Again, I don't think this law has much power, and the sponsors have probably already forgotten it.) --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:36 PM 5/27/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
But as Robert knows more directly than I, Georgia also has the "anonymity is a crime" laws on the books ... So, what will happen if people, entities, remailers, pseudonyms, etc.. submit keys to this EFF-Georgia repository without providing SS number, passport, mother's maiden name, etc.?
If Tim read the article he quoted from, he will notice that EFGA has sued the state of Georgia over the on-line anonymity law. We were in court on Feb 12, and while we have been waiting longer than expected, we anticipate the federal judge to rule in our favor, and against the state. The original Digital Signature law proposed in Georgia was an invasive bureaucratic law very similar the laws passed in Utah and Washington State, and similar to the model proposed by the American bar Association. This law attempted to have a state controlled Ministry of Signatures that would have databases linking email addresses to credit bureau files. I led EFGA in opposing the state on this issue. We went to Digital Signature Task Force Meetings, testified at Senate hearings, gathered research from other places, and did a lot to help educate the local lawmakers and corporate people. The result of this education process was that the original bill was thrown out and replaced with a much better Electronic Records and Digital Signature Act to be passed here in Georgia. The X.509 type provisions are not implemented in the EFGA key repository. No proof of identity is required - the certification is based on the web of trust principle. To further enhance privacy, we have turned off replication of keys to other servers and will not be allowing searches on the database, only exact user matches. EFGA has identified privacy problems with the existing MIT (Horowitz) PGP key server and we are attempting to help plug the holes. I think you will find that what happens when people use key repositories and crypto in Georgia without disclosing private personal information is that the State of Georgia will be endorsing strong crypto. The Georgia Information Technology Policy Council will report on it, and the Electronic Commerce Study Committee will report on it. And the state government will endorse the use of 512 to 2048 bit encryption without escrrow. PS. You are still invited to use PGP5.0 to send your keys to keys.efga.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBVAwUBM4tO6UGpGhRXg5NZAQFujQH/bbL+OPSeeXA3xwK1ju+pMOLs7+3vEZjC U1ysIir7TUiJJvz7nYNPrJA2CbXKk4/QSN9hoz0B1DN8E5Q/OuLfNA== =KEZf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key
At 01:36 PM 5/27/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
Electronic Frontiers Georgia has set up a key repository for PGP type keys. ... But as Robert knows more directly than I, Georgia also has the "anonymity is a crime" laws on the books (an article excerpt is below...doing a search on Georgia and anonynimity will turn up a lot of articles). ... So, what will happen if people, entities, remailers, pseudonyms, etc.. submit keys to this EFF-Georgia repository without providing SS number, passport, mother's maiden name, etc.?
It's not really a big problem - the law doesn't forbid the EFF to accept anonymously submitted communications, it only forbids Subjects of the State of Georgia to send them.
(Will Georgia seek the BlackNet operator's extradition for not complying with Georgia's law when he submits the BlackNet key? Does the Georgia EFF plan to enforce the Georgia law?)
If you don't provide enough address information along with your key for the Cracker Police to find your True Name and hunt you down, that's just a shame, now isn't it... especially if the EFGA doesn't file a complaint about it. Besides, how can they extradite someone they can't find - send polite diplomatic notes to all the governments in the world asking them to find some unknown character for them? "Please extradite the usual suspects!" # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list or news, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)
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