Re: What motivates crypto-folk?
At 1:28 PM 07/01/94 +0200, Mats Bergstrom wrote:
anarchy. And I don't think any ultra left-wingers are lurking on cypherpunks. That epithet should be saved for people believing in
Depends on what you call ultra-left. You have a very serious socialist here... I don't advertise it much becuase too many libertarian types spam me trying to tell me why I'm wrong. Maybe I am the only one that gets tired of those arguments... [tame but promising aproach to social welfare deleted]
But such a pinko-green approach to privacy does not, and should not in my humble opinion, have to extend to public funding of education, libraries, minorities, arts, infobahns or other soft issues. And it gives no one a right to pry into my software collection or drug cabinet.
Well, you were doing well for a while...:) And this pinko agrees 110% with the last statement. My own personal opinion is that waiting for governments to collapse due to crypto and tech is gonna have you waiting a long, long time. I prefer doing something with the tools at hand to dreaming. And the government isn't all bad, as is; just mostly bad. Heck, let me be so optimistic as to say maybe even fixable, at least to what I want to see.
Mats Bergstrom
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Jamie Lawrence wrote:
Depends on what you call ultra-left. You have a very serious socialist here... I don't advertise it much becuase too many libertarian types spam me trying to tell me why I'm wrong. Maybe I am the only one that gets tired of those arguments...
I'm also tired of them, and I don't spam folks who are liberals or leftists. I've generally found that people's political views are formed when they are of college age, and rarely change significantly after that. Not sure why this is so, but I think it is.
My own personal opinion is that waiting for governments to collapse due to crypto and tech is gonna have you waiting a long, long time. I prefer doing something with the tools at hand to dreaming. And the
Just to be clear about this, in no way, shape or form am I just "waiting for governments to collapse." I'll make the charitable assumption that "I prefer doing something with the tools at hand to dreaming" is not an insinuation that we libertarians or crypto anarchists are idle dreamers.
Jamie "Is a Mayist Like a Janist?" Lawrence
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on Fri, 01 Jul 1994 12:38:40 -0700 (PDT) tcmay@netcom.com wrote:
I'm also tired of them, and I don't spam folks who are liberals or leftists. I've generally found that people's political views are formed when they are of college age, and rarely change significantly after that. Not sure why this is so, but I think it is.
I'd like to think that MY political beliefs have changed significantly since "college age." Although it is possibly true that it takes a major change in your life to change your politics. My views shifted sharply right with the birth of my first kid. They shifted (up? sideways?) towards Libertarianism several years ago when government interference caused me to become unemployed. That trend continues the longer I spend on the net. It really *IS* the only answer :-) Dave Otto -- dave@marvin.jta.edd.ca.gov -- daveotto@acm.org "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" [the Great Oz] finger DaveOtto@ACM.org for PGP 2.6 key <0x3300e841> fingerprint = 78 71 3A 5B FD 8A 9A F1 8F BC E8 6A C7 BD A4 DD
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