Newsgroup proposal: misc.anonymous
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In an effort to get anonymity and message pools more widespread, I think it would be a good idea to establish a newsgroup for anonymous message pools that would get the same distribution as any other newsgroup in the "big 8". The "misc" hierarchy is probably the best place for such a newsgroup since it already carries groups like "misc.misc" and "misc.test". Does anyone have any suggestions or objections? Mark - -- PGP encrypted mail prefered. Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMknvNSzIPc7jvyFpAQHnmAf/SmvkV71/p3V2ZzCZApBk2TXD3wVifxi/ ljjRcuaGGs/iDJ1xKuTDGj5qIicM3Y3CSsnedS2g15RtAIpU7IdBKNsa4D55F2vI TJSElzqoqPMlAQRLq45v92DlG9d5zQopfqlT9bkGXZ1DDfTGg2q+F0HUqLYAZC1r DVU+iShjWUjX+0qxvKDClXSLLizdz6QHjTUTuE0PEdYf03KI0rqt/Dceh3iU2BWm bHYS20mHLv0fjdGMEVzBtul6mNfkcrYR2eyYxpWKtPtGzrw3NsSrI+ZYxT74I8S6 e2uB+Evnvl0dauLwhxWrdo4ILW0A9ekKfSrEVkRybBSKp8di2vwCqw== =cgnu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com> writes:
In an effort to get anonymity and message pools more widespread, I think it would be a good idea to establish a newsgroup for anonymous message pools that would get the same distribution as any other newsgroup in the "big 8". The "misc" hierarchy is probably the best place for such a newsgroup since it already carries groups like "misc.misc" and "misc.test". Does anyone have any suggestions or objections?
This sounds like a good idea. I would certainly vote for such a news group. Should the name be misc.anonymous or misc.anonymous.messages? Are alt.anonymous and alt.anonymous.messages basically to different newsgroups for exactly the same purpose, or is there some difference between them.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
This sounds like a good idea. I would certainly vote for such a news group. Should the name be misc.anonymous or misc.anonymous.messages? Are alt.anonymous and alt.anonymous.messages basically to different newsgroups for exactly the same purpose, or is there some difference between them.
This is what's listed in the newsgroups file: alt.anonymous alt! Who goes there? alt.anonymous.messages An anonymous message pool newgroup, whatever that is. Alt.anonymous is just another content-free, basically dead newsgroup. Alt. anonymous.messages is the group used for message pools. Since the general rule for naming newsgroups is to use dots only for designating a lower group hierarchy. misc.anonymous-messages is probably a better name, since there is no misc.anonymous.* newsgroup hierarchy. Mark - -- PGP encrypted mail prefered. Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMkxX8yzIPc7jvyFpAQEwRggApePkCcuHKMy3l3dHaMfBBr44WkZwSKJo VcRnC16rKu8cof/vS1rAZPv6/504Z9u4Q8M+S5nxK8V6vVFPzA+TF/I/TQs8FekU eTAAmD2FXarZRYUKw4iraxRba5CkHuKNs8h7G+d9XrfZ71kFMlcP9Kmi968bxx+I IuyVX6PEmaapbC88GZukfDCfTwuW0aZvhqseB/dzSeDnDXgfMYdNXHXBXJr+maiH Nf6tXNFYlsf1D3D/JF6u31n4JDGi9fHrz+9nNH6xpKy8EAehJzQd2aQME2fKDYHJ zu+tfyLc8I/irYpTOUtZ0nRYxUxBZoJ8moucD9569erZY0OEMqc4/Q== =lblb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com> writes:
In an effort to get anonymity and message pools more widespread, I think it would be a good idea to establish a newsgroup for anonymous message pools tha would get the same distribution as any other newsgroup in the "big 8". The "misc" hierarchy is probably the best place for such a newsgroup since it already carries groups like "misc.misc" and "misc.test". Does anyone have an suggestions or objections?
It should be under misc.activism: misc.activism.anonymity or even m.a.privacy. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
At 10:51 pm -0400 9/25/96, Mark M. wrote:
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In an effort to get anonymity and message pools more widespread, I think it would be a good idea to establish a newsgroup for anonymous message pools that would get the same distribution as any other newsgroup in the "big 8". The "misc" hierarchy is probably the best place for such a newsgroup since it already carries groups like "misc.misc" and "misc.test". Does anyone have any suggestions or objections?
I do know that there was an alt.anonymous.messages, or some such. Haven't looked at it lately, but I don't remember too much traffic on it... Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/
At 7:47 pm -0400 9/26/96, Mark M. wrote:
It is still active. However, there are many people who do not receive the alt.* groups and those who do may only receive newsgroups "approved" by the news admin. It is much more difficult to restrict distribution of newsgroups carried by most major news feeds. Also, some NNTP servers may expire alt groups faster than the other hierarchies which is very undesirable for message pools.
It seems that if newsgroup RFC and the whole rigamarole of newsgroup voting was set up, there would be enough people -- on this list alone, probably -- who would be interested enough in the idea to at least vote (publically) for it. I certainly would, just to see what happens. Of course, that means that someone *else* ;-) has to actually put the train on the track, much less lay the rails, which, as usual, is the main problem here. If we had some ham, we could have some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs. If you lived here, you'd be home now. And so forth. Same as it ever was. Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Robert Hettinga wrote:
It seems that if newsgroup RFC and the whole rigamarole of newsgroup voting was set up, there would be enough people -- on this list alone, probably -- who would be interested enough in the idea to at least vote (publically) for it. I certainly would, just to see what happens.
Of course, that means that someone *else* ;-) has to actually put the train on the track, much less lay the rails, which, as usual, is the main problem here. If we had some ham, we could have some ham and eggs, if we had some eggs. If you lived here, you'd be home now. And so forth.
Same as it ever was.
You're forgetting that "Cypherpunks write RFD's". I'll write up a formal Request For Discussion in my copious spare time. I have no experience in the newsgroup creation process, but it is well documented in the news.announce.newgroups FAQ's. Mark - -- PGP encrypted mail prefered. Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMkxbnizIPc7jvyFpAQGbhgf+PwVQJL6pfULIo83ckKwCyqd3uQXJRSyU A9zKSE21KYxZl91N5PfGBBoeBc6Slnit6KdduPEUHI8d1YrDG6XWs8CDiXHJxSDW BQolYGAqiRLJA3ickQTuM33CUmW7GRHzXSHXKF9Skx9oKanO08LjgHcd0H9AZ7sY zHBubzw8ud9OjQUSnTbkTRDGVtUIA6sE+TZhDz5Sb3FbjtBw/9I/yBi5vC87o97F HUJp8HvxtsrxUrlPXzOb5/w2ECBQiwNtYbdwwEmJYbbKPAeTf68KOKw/VbpKcE7X G7qXzDbO0En7JZ4dO2TKCGoFtrgzMpf9PyfHQ+Es1diRSq645qCb7g== =RrXA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Robert Hettinga wrote:
I do know that there was an alt.anonymous.messages, or some such. Haven't looked at it lately, but I don't remember too much traffic on it...
It is still active. However, there are many people who do not receive the alt.* groups and those who do may only receive newsgroups "approved" by the news admin. It is much more difficult to restrict distribution of newsgroups carried by most major news feeds. Also, some NNTP servers may expire alt groups faster than the other hierarchies which is very undesirable for message pools. Mark - -- PGP encrypted mail prefered. Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMksV/CzIPc7jvyFpAQG8uAgAh0dx5o2/Ge4Myia62vUx63ENAClZG7vl pqxTDm61o9sR5aBR2uk11DqVqFVEbQQxAWzYpXd5R4OFvFKraM5OQkmJ96QRT5t6 TPaFIOI79CE0gLJ9i9/SO0ibHlsIe2/5m0/E1TpjidEYa1prVP4zSY7GmAksA5BY +tNPDvYih8eLz9P55Uwf2IorDEYAth/HMR/GcRIIrISiAGTuP67v5Mz8rSaC5CWJ XwUYqOsBatr5sLtWTl6kDuARa0dBA7giQ018N5oPS/nqJ3Ambn3MO47ff7p4jzFS RDglfGlewF/9S7kJ5R6QXTWzhxluiP+VxO6zoENpnpMV1u7ZHpFkvQ== =KYcM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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