RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 22:28:49 -0700 From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd)
Bullshit. No monopoly has ever happened except by regulation
That is truly Bullshit. Microsoft got to where it is because of a lack of regulation, the abuses of the aircraft industry in the 1940-50's that led to regulation at the end of the 50's and 60's. The steel industry in the north east in the early 1900's. The food packing and garment industries of the north east and pacific coast in the 20's through the 50's. The railroad industry in the mid-1800's. Every one of these created a monopolistic market because of a *lack* of regulation. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
No monopoly has ever happened except by regulation
At 08:34 AM 10/4/98 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
Microsoft got to where it is because of a lack of regulation,
Microsoft is not a monopoly. In servers, where much of their income comes from, Linux is eating their lunch, and the desktop is under continual threat. For a monopoly to be a monopoly, you not only have to have most of the market, you have to have some means of excluding others, which Microsoft manifestly does not.
the abuses of the aircraft industry in the 1940-50's that led to regulation at the end of the 50's and 60's. The steel industry in the north east in the early 1900's. The food packing and garment industries of the north east and pacific coast in the 20's through the 50's. The railroad industry in the mid-1800's.
You are totally deluded. None of these are examples of monopoly, except for the railroad industry where government intervention was for the purpose of creating monopoly, not preventing it. The garment and food packing industries were and are a huge network of innumerable tiny shops, and the aircraft industry had several big companies in fierce competition. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG tGwDPXVCokaVVyVk0h0Eg2GWnP+PvoDN/FVnNlrj 4rpwXX94bGxwVRYaTkgfjolUcS6JYdmdeC7V3gPK3 ----------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ James A. Donald
At 8:34 AM -0500 10/4/98, Jim Choate wrote:
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> Subject: RE: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction (fwd) Bullshit. No monopoly has ever happened except by regulation That is truly Bullshit.
Microsoft got to where it is because of a lack of regulation, the abuses of
Microsoft is nowhere NEAR a monopoly. Yes, they are the largest in their niche, but they are coming under increasing competition, and even without government interference in the markets they will come under increasing competition from Linux, Solaris x86, and possibly MacOS X.
the aircraft industry in the 1940-50's that led to regulation at the end of the 50's and 60's. The steel industry in the north east in the early 1900's. The food packing and garment industries of the north east and pacific coast in the 20's through the 50's. The railroad industry in the mid-1800's.
The railroad industry in the mid-1800's was CAUSED BY GOVERNMENT. Try reading that link that Gering posted to Greenspans essay on Anti-trust: http://www.ecosystems.net/mgering/antitrust.html I can't speak to the others, but I'd bet that lurking behind each of them is the Government causing the problems it later seeks to solve with more legislation.
Every one of these created a monopolistic market because of a *lack* of regulation.
Wrong. Too much government interference. -- petro@playboy.com----for work related issues. I don't speak for Playboy. petro@bounty.org-----for everthing else. They wouldn't like that. They REALLY Economic speech IS political speech. wouldn't like that.
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