A month or so back, there was a brief discussion talking about the production of a cypherpunks net.book. Out of that discussion I talked about the fact that I (would) have a workstation available to provide a platform for various mailing lists if they were needed. On of the suggestions that was made by Eric was that it might be a 'good thing'{tm} to creat some regional cypherpunk lists to facilitate the planning of physical meetings, to make announcements about speakers, or whatever. In any case, I have the computer up and running, and am now in a position to create whatever cypherpunk mailing lists might be wanted or needed. So, does anyone have anything they'd want a mailing list for? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*)
A month or so back, there was a brief discussion talking about the production of a cypherpunks net.book. Out of that discussion I talked about the fact that I (would) have a workstation available to provide a platform for various mailing lists if they were needed.
On of the suggestions that was made by Eric was that it might be a 'good thing'{tm} to creat some regional cypherpunk lists to facilitate the planning of physical meetings, to make announcements about speakers, or whatever.
In any case, I have the computer up and running, and am now in a position to create whatever cypherpunk mailing lists might be wanted or needed. So, does anyone have anything they'd want a mailing list for?
____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu
I know of, and am supposedly subscribed to, several such sub-lists: -meeting plans, or somesuch, devoted to planning regional meetings -DC-Nets (Austin...and I may also be on the "Austin-Cyperpunks" list, or at least I recall sending in my subscribe notice a year or so ago) -Hardware Punks (for those interested in RNGs, phones, boxes, etc.) -LA meetings (Jay Prime Positive) -DC area meetings (I think this is one I got on, but maybe not) -Lib Tech or Tech Lib (Nick Szabo) (Sorry for not having the precise names...the lists are mostly so dormant that their names are a blur. Everytime a new mailing sublist was announced, I got on it.) All of these specialized mailing lists have nil traffic, for whatever reasons. Draw your own conclusions. The "Cypherpunks Book" is another matter, one we've discussed. Having a "workstation" available is absolutely the least important thing involved. Vincent Cate and others are already doing a fine job of making URLs available, and the writing of book-length stuff is not something easily done. I know, because I'm still trying to finish a book-length document filled with fine-granularity stuff (a different task than linking some number of essays and articles together with URLs for Mosaic/Lynx browsers to access). (About 300K of text.) I hope these blunt remarks do not cause more cries that I am being a wet blanket. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."
On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
The "Cypherpunks Book" is another matter, one we've discussed. Having a "workstation" available is absolutely the least important thing involved.
I wasn't trying to do anyting additional on the 'cypherpunks book' idea, as I see better and more capable people doing better projects already, I just mentioned it to give this whoel thing a time frame. :-) ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*)
Can I have the address for the following lists? On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
-meeting plans, or somesuch, devoted to planning regional meetings -Hardware Punks (for those interested in RNGs, phones, boxes, etc.) -Lib Tech or Tech Lib (Nick Szabo) Roger.
I guess I didn't make myself clear: these lists are so low in traffic--or no traffic--that I don't even know their precise name, let alone their address. Sorry. But the operators of these lists can, if they see these messages, comment. The "meetings plans" list was set up by Eric Hughes to cope with the dialog involving upcoming meetings in non-Bay Area sites. A flurry of messages in April and May, but nothing in June--and I heard nothing about LA, DC, Boston, Colorado, Seattle, or London meeting in June. The soda site may have info. The hardware punks list was formed more than a year ago. I have no idea who was involved. Nick Szabo set up the "Lib Tech" or "Tech Lib" list. His address is szabo@netcom.com. I've only seen a few messages on it. Which brings me to why all these "secondary" list fail. Someone gets enthused about random number generators and proposes a list (yes, this has happened at least twice). Or a "Stealth PGP" list. Or whatever. Sometimes the lists even are formed. But without a critical mass of posts, interest wanes. The addresses are forgotten (hell, look how many people can't remember the majordomo@toad.com address!), the list dies. Plus, there's just not a big call for a "hardware list," given that only a few folks are working on hardware. (If you think that this is in fact a _reason_ for them to form a sublist, you need to think about things some more.) In any case, active sublists should be mentioned periodically here. Else why bother? I only know of a few active or semi-active lists: * The Extropians list. Instructions have changed (I think) since I was last on it, so I won't offer it here. * The "Digital Anarchy" list. digianarch@aol.com, as of 1994-04-17. May have changed recently. (I've been on it since the start, but find it fairly tedious and lacking the piquancy that crypto gives our list....their list has a bunch of folks debating anarchy and how "free access to the Net" will be provided.) * Surfpunk List. Strick's personal zine, usually resending stuff from our list or related lists. surfpunk@versant.com. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."
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