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Tim Fulbright wrote:

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Now I, a lurker for two months, am truelly confused! L. Deitweiler must be right. Surely one of you cyperpunk fellows could hack together a dongle with some kind of AD converter and buffer ram to gather a Truelly Random Bitstream off the environment every couple of milliseconds easier than this raindrop scheme or recording the fan, you're haviung me on!. Let's go back [..]

The raindrop scheme was (politely) laughed off. As for the fan recording scheme, it's a good make-do-with-what-you-already-have method, as opposed to buying and/or building a card.

A 'simple AD converter' isn't so simple. Especially if you want to be sure you really have random noise and not something else that just looks random. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.]

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Actually, I remember reading somewhere, a long time ago though, that the NSA had come up with an almost undoubtably random sequence by using random high altitude RF signals, scanning a certain frequency I guess. Then using it as the random number. Given the amount of RF transmisions world-wide and the addition of high-altitude interference, it should be completely random. Unless someone were to get their hands on you copy of it or happened to be hooked up to your reciever at the time of recording, there is no way they could figure it out. -- "... In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me-and by that time no one was left to speak up..." Pastor Martin Niemoller ++++++++++++ ************************************** * Matthew Murphy ------------ eggplant@inlink.com * ---------- * http://www.inlink.com/~eggplant * The Web page is under construciton at this time though.. * Please don't mind the mess.... * ************************************** ++++++++++++ finger eggplant@inlink.com for my PGP key.