Digital Signature Inititiative
Good afternoon, I am the program manager at Microsoft responsible for putting the digital signature program in place. I am sending this mail in response to a recent mail string sent to these aliases appearing at the bottom. To summarize some important points of the program: * The program creates a certificate authority infrastructure which consists of thrid party non-software affiliated companies such as VeriSign and GTE who will act to grant certificates to allow code to be signed. The policies defining who can be a certificate authority and what it means to be a trusted software publisher will be a matter of public policy(standard). The point being that Microsoft does NOT control who can/cannot sign code. * This approach solves the problem of identity and integrity, and is viewed by MS as complementary to the sandboxing approach used by Java scripting, which we view to be incomplete and unsatisfactory by itself. We believe that Java needs to sign platform dependent Java classes in addition to their sandboxing scheme. * The W3C is creating a working group in this area to develop standards around the policies mentioned in the first point, and the formats of the certificate and signature formats. Microsoft is committed to making this a open, industry, x-platform standard... * regarding the mac question - there already is a version of Internet Explorer for the Macintosh, available for download at www.microsoft.com/ie. Microsoft is has already announced its committment to building cross-platform internet products. I would be happy to answer more questions you may have about this program, inluding proving more information. Stuart Theodore Program Manager Microsoft Corporation Stuartt@microsoft.com
I recieved a copy of "Microsoft Interactive Developer" today in the mail. In it, it has a preview of Microsoft Explorer 3.0. (Flux by David Boling on page 120.)
Of interest to Cypherpunks is this paragraph (in the section on OLE support in web browsers):
"Since OLE controls could potentially pose a security problem, Microsoft is studying how to create an infrastructure to certify them. The idea is that, once certified, an OLE control would contain an RSA security signature indicating that it has passed muster -- the OLE eqivelent if the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval! Users of Internet Explorer 3.0 could specify whether or not noncertified OLE controls should be loaded and executed by the browser."
As a web developer, I have some problems with this scheme. Giving Microsoft access to virtually every OLE control on the Web does not make me more secure. Sounds like a way to rip off ideas from the rest of the development world. If someone has a control that might compete with a Microsoft product, it could be shelved and/or delayed for "further security testing".
Java has a decentralized mechanism for security. No one group controls what is a "certified" control and what is not. You write the code and compile it and that is that. Furthermore, you are not stuck with Microsoft approved platforms. (I wonder if there will ever be a version of Explorer for the Mac.)
I expect the Microsoft plan to garner a bit of resistance from the Web development community over this one...
I do not expect to see many OLE crypto apps for the web with this plan.
--- Alan Olsen -- alano@teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano@teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon
On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Stuart Theodore wrote: <snip>
* regarding the mac question - there already is a version of Internet Explorer for the Macintosh, available for download at www.microsoft.com/ie. Microsoft is has already announced its committment to building cross-platform internet products.
If this is the case, then why did you discontinue Mac support for your own MAPI standard? While the ability exists to bind cryptographic protocols onto your MS Mail a/o Exchange via MAPI (as we have done), you trashed MS Mail for the Mac. Star Nine doesn't even have the ability to port MAPI onto the Mac, even though you sold them the rights to MS Mail server software for that platform. You have crippled the interoperability of your so-called messaging standard between the Mac and Windows platform, thus preventing third party developers (such as myself) from being able to incorporate the use of different cryptographic engines seamlessly across your product line. Now you say, "Microsoft is [sic] has already announced its committment to building cross-platform internet products." Excuse me, but this is exactly the same thing you used to say about cross-platform messaging products (before you woke up to the Internet). Now, whenever I have to put together a messaging system or O/A environment that requires cryptographic protections, I tell my clients to avoid MS like the plague. Hell, I'd rather work in VIM than deal with this "MS commitment" that turns out to be empty lies and marketing hype. Forgive me if I, and any number of other people, assign no merit whatsoever to any so-called "commitment" from MS, particularly in regard to security and standards issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Liberty is truly dead |Mark Aldrich | | when the slaves are willing |GRCI INFOSEC Engineering | | to forge their own chains. |maldrich@grci.com | | STOP THE CDA NOW! |MAldrich@dockmaster.ncsc.mil | |_______________________________________________________________________| |The author is PGP Empowered. Public key at: finger maldrich@grci.com | | The opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the author | | and my employer gets no credit for them whatsoever. | -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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