-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Re: Nym Servers To: Cypherpunks Igor and D.V. have been discussing the viability of cyberpromo as a host site for remailers; Igor points out that many recipients will auto-trash anything from there. On the other hand, it's a good entry point for a middleman remailer or a nym remailer, as long as you can trash anything from there without also trashing your remailer's mail :-) In particular, your remailer was going to remove direct references to cyberpromo anyway. However, the prices have changed since I brought up the idea a month ago. At the time, they had auto-responders with POP mail - - - $50/2yrs POP+autoresponder, or $39 one-time for a mail forwarder. Now, however, they offer autoresponders for 3/$99 for three years, with no mention of POP mail or forwarding - I don't know if they've dropped the service (in favor of web hosting at $25/month), or if it's still there and just not advertised. (Of course, there's still the moral dilemma that even $99 is $99 in Spamford's pocket :-) Spambert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQBFAwUBM4uEWYuqXu2FMJm1AQGMWAF9FCraS1yFl5EOFPW/ISNCH+Sqc1qnUwCi +du2tY+MiRiAz64yHX95HNZ5iz/DZLij =c6PD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Anonymous wrote:
Re: Nym Servers To: Cypherpunks
Igor and D.V. have been discussing the viability of cyberpromo as a host site for remailers; Igor points out that many recipients will auto-trash anything from there. On the other hand, it's a good entry point for a middleman remailer or a nym remailer, as long as you can trash anything from there without also trashing your remailer's mail :-)
Yes, a middleman remailer can be placed at cyberpromo, as long as other remailers accept cyberpromo email.
In particular, your remailer was going to remove direct references to cyberpromo anyway.
Well, if mail comes from (MAIL FROM: command of SMTP) one of the 300 Cyberpromo domains, it has _some_ chances of being trashed because of the local bans on these domains. My internet provider Galstar, for example, trashes all mail coming from Cyberpromo, savetrees and so on.
However, the prices have changed since I brought up the idea a month ago. At the time, they had auto-responders with POP mail - - - $50/2yrs POP+autoresponder, or $39 one-time for a mail forwarder. Now, however, they offer autoresponders for 3/$99 for three years, with no mention of POP mail or forwarding - I don't know if they've dropped the service (in favor of web hosting at $25/month), or if it's still there and just not advertised. (Of course, there's still the moral dilemma that even $99 is $99 in Spamford's pocket :-)
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- Igor.
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Anonymous wrote:
However, the prices have changed since I brought up the idea a month ago. At the time, they had auto-responders with POP mail - - - $50/2yrs POP+autoresponder, or $39 one-time for a mail forwarder. Now, however, they offer autoresponders for 3/$99 for three years, with no mention of POP mail or forwarding - I don't know if they've dropped the service (in favor of web hosting at $25/month), or if it's still there and just not advertised. (Of course, there's still the moral dilemma that even $99 is $99 in Spamford's pocket :-)
Not to mention the fact that this bitch will grab any email addresses (including your own) that pass through those accounts and use them for his own spamming purposes. Don't do it, it's not worth it, not just for the money going to a shit eating weasel, but for the principle of the thing - you'd cause the spamming of everyone using it or communicating with it. If you get a web site with them, they'd grab all the email addresses from the surfers' browsers. Hell, you might as well get an account on nsa.gov while you're at it. =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "Boy meets beer. Boy drinks Beer, |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com| Boy gets another beer!" |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ | |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, | For with those which eternal lie, with |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| strange aeons, even death may die. |..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com =========================
At 8:45 AM -0700 5/28/97, Ray Arachelian wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 1997, Anonymous wrote:
However, the prices have changed since I brought up the idea a month ago. At the time, they had auto-responders with POP mail - - - $50/2yrs POP+autoresponder, or $39 one-time for a mail forwarder. Now, however, they offer autoresponders for 3/$99 for three years, with no mention of POP mail or forwarding - I don't know if they've dropped the service (in favor of web hosting at $25/month), or if it's still there and just not advertised. (Of course, there's still the moral dilemma that even $99 is $99 in Spamford's pocket :-)
Not to mention the fact that this bitch will grab any email addresses (including your own) that pass through those accounts and use them for his own spamming purposes. Don't do it, it's not worth it, not just for the money going to a shit eating weasel, but for the principle of the thing - you'd cause the spamming of everyone using it or communicating with it.
If you get a web site with them, they'd grab all the email addresses from the surfers' browsers. Hell, you might as well get an account on nsa.gov while you're at it.
At least nsa.gov won't spam the addresses they've grabbed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz@netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA
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