Woah.... I hate to interject noise, but I have to comment. Maybe Bruce's reply WAS a bit curt and not terribly helpful. But it's better to just let it drop, and not resort to criticizing typos. I'm a member of this list in the hopes that I'll learn something. While it's true that I didn't learn anything from Bruce's reply, I don't think anyone gains anything from grammar/spelling corrections! *smile* Jacob ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?) Author: proff@iq.org at mime Date: 9/22/98 10:40 AM

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the legitimate user has, excepting the 'remembered secret'. Or is there anything wrong with my logic?

Yes. There is something wrong with you logic.

Bruce ********************************************************************** Bruce Schneier, President, Counterpane Systems Phone: 612-823-1098

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