Since the telcom legislation has been passed, I thought it might be prudent to remind everyone that there is a PGP encrypted mailing list called cypher-list. It can be subscribed to by sending email to cypher-list-request@vishnu.alias.net. All messages and transactions are encrypted. The code is a little buggy but it works for the most part. It seems that cypher-list would make an excellent platform for discussion on the telcom legislation and maybe even ways to thwart it. If you have trouble subscribing, perry@vishnu.alias.net has been very helpful. (he got me on!) Lazarus