-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 21 Jul 1996, Bill Stewart wrote:

First of all, the goverrnment _has_ enforced ITAR; I've seen references (ummm, on the net...) to a few cases of things like exporting TV decryptors, as well as all the enforcement about illegal trafficking in guns and such.

I haven't heard of anyone ever being indicted for exporting cryptography. I should have made it clear that I was refering to ITAR as it applies to crypto, and not other items that would fall under ITAR.

But second, if you're threatened with jail and large fines, and have to pay your lawyers lots of money to avoid being railroaded, that's enforcement even if it's not the full-scale due process type.

Quite true. I was just refering to someone actually being tried and found guilty of violating ITAR by exporting cryptography. I'd be very interested in any references to companies or individuals being prosecuted for exporting crypto. - -- Mark PGP encrypted mail prefered Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMfJsOrZc+sv5siulAQHs1wP7BVKtK4HLcNR3oEAPL1k/5zCYVRy7q7wu gQZqsM+lwKkIGnPuhu16+Cp/AIyMfokuW4y2qyJ9vOQiS7+ikVgwPB2neB0PmpXM mpBMjOXhWPoqVS8jOxC85/lutsf7TZpxEDgV9eev2iyY/v4c5/BZJD7onN/qJYVV P9gOv+Oyki8= =NpZS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----