Re: Anonymous phone calls...
One of the problems of using the pre-paid cards was brought to light recently in the Olympic incident of Harding/Kerrigan. Harding's husband bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those. Sgt Darren Harlow - Computer Security MCTSSA, Camp Pendleton, USMC Internet: harlowd@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil or another less reliable & slower: harlow@mqg1.usmc.mil Voice: Comm: (619) 725-2970 DSN (Autovon): 365-2970 Fax: Comm: (619) 725-9512 DSN (Autovon): 365-9512 PGP Public key available upon request "The views expressed are my own, and always will be..."
SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil writes:
One of the problems of using the pre-paid cards was brought to light recently in the Olympic incident of Harding/Kerrigan. Harding's husband bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those.
Maybe in Norway you do, but not here. The Orange Cards were completely anonymous, I think, and there's certainly no reason that a card system couldn't be set up that is anonymous if those weren't. -- | GOOD TIME FOR MOVIE - GOING ||| Mike McNally <m5@tivoli.com> | | TAKE TWA TO CAIRO. ||| Tivoli Systems, Austin, TX: | | (actual fortune cookie) ||| "Like A Little Bit of Semi-Heaven" |
On Thu, 5 May 1994 SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil wrote:
bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those.
Sgt Darren Harlow - Computer Security
Hesitating to correct the USMC... Some of the cards (there are now more than a dozen issuers) may be bought in circumstances where your ID is linked but Western Union doesn't ask and those who bought the Hallmark Cards with a $6 Sprint Phone Card inside were not "carded" at many cardshop checkout counters. DCF Don't ask me what my grandfather Col Duncan Phillip Frissell USA Quartermaster Corps used to say about the Marines...
bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those.
I bought a $10 "U.S. Telecard, Inc." Pre-Paid Phone Card from a vending machine in the Atlanta Airport two weeks ago. It has a PIN on the card, and uses AT&T long distance network. It's from some company in the Atlanta Area. It seems like they had three different companies named in the recording when you call the 800 customer assistance number -- a real entrepeneur! There were some flyers at the vending machine, touting the card's features: mainly, 1. it's easy to use 2. it uses AT&T long dist network. Privacy or Anonymity was totally unmentioned. Of course, privacy and anonymity are not thought of as features with european phone cards, either. People buy them because they want to use the phone. Of course, I blew my anonymity when I tested it, calling my own voicemail. So give it a try. Call 1-800-827-9860, PIN 480-500-0400. For international calls, dial 011-county-city-number. Cool computer voices. It has $9.96 left on it. You can't use "#" on your voicemail, because that's how you make a new call. "For additional time or Customer Assistance call 1-800-819-6111". p.s. these instructions (C) 1994 I.M.C. (US), INC. Copied without permission. also. this card is pretty bland, black on grey. if they put pretty pictures of atlanta and 1996 olympic themes on them, they may have something.
C'punks, On Thu, 5 May 1994 SGT=DARREN=S.=HARLOW%ISB%MCTSSA@nwsfallbrook3.nwac.sea06.navy.mil wrote:
One of the problems of using the pre-paid cards was brought to light recently in the Olympic incident of Harding/Kerrigan. Harding's husband bought one of the cards to make phone calls and they traced the calls back to him via the card, since you have to present valid ID to purchase those.
I don't think so. I've bought Western Union calling cards and nobody asked for anything but the money. Every other similar card I've heard about was the same way. Now what could have happened is that they traced the call to the vendor, and *their* records were traced back. Since you call an 800 number to access the system, the ANI (Automatic Number Identification) would have picked up the number from which the call was made. I'm still not convinced, however, because I doubt the vendor companies would keep that information for very long--if at all. S a n d y
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