White Knight Remailers [was: Guerrilla Remailers]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 22 Nov 1994, Adam Shostack wrote:
Real remailers (with return address features) should probably be advertised in alt.support.* and alt.recovery, in order to build a class of "good" users for them. Nb, I don't see this use as superior to any other, I simply see it as being politically useful to provide anonymous services to a group of people who society seems to think should be anonymous.
"But Brad, you can't shut down my remailer. Its used to let victims of sexual abuse post anonymously to the net!"
I have been thinking along these lines lately, too. The situation with the reputation of the twwells.com anon-server and its continued use in spite of those questions by under-informed individuals in the alt.sexual.abuse.recovery newsgroup have motivated me to do a couple of trial postings there. So far I have posted the "remailer.help.all" file from chaos.bsu.edu as a "how-to" and the most recent update posted here of Raph's Reliable Remailers List as a "where-to." Neither has generated any visible response in the newsgroup as of yet. My thinking is that it would be a Good Thing to post this kind of information on a regular basis (weekly?) to some of the "support" and "recovery" newsgroups. Unless I begin drawing a lot of flames for inappropriateness, this is what I plan to do in the immediate future. Introducing the people using those groups to remailers, encryption, etc. would not only be helpful to them, but would also be helpful to the publicly perceived reputation of remailers, etc. in just the manner to which Adam alludes. N. Cognito =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= N. Cognito "Don't put no constrictions on da people. an234@vox.xs4all.nl Leave 'em ta hell alone." -- J. Durante =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= public key available via keyserver -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLtJrYqL3ipYu3mvVAQGMKwQAnkkKRHVrnqOwXbnNLfZTZ6IZRt4dwrP1 f4ubBMjjva9mvlZVTc2073ZmdwQaiEdGfmM4j7QE7NN71fIILl0/qPsvQsePYiDE a3ZsppzV6HftQPISyoBV+GgA58Sx9eTJe8pTEojpF3xT2KKzPcRnOl3uX/WQo7iR /CcwnT1kx5s= =x95Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Adam Shostack writes: [oddly, I never received the original copy of this; I seem to be missing list messages with increasing frequency recently :( ]
Real remailers (with return address features) should probably be advertised in alt.support.* and alt.recovery, in order to build a class of "good" users for them. [...]
I commend Ed Carp for his endeavors in this regard; IMHO he's done a splendid job of both advertising and explaining his remailer in asar (name is a relic, it would be in alt.recovery.* if it were created today). khijol seems to command a fair amount of respect there. I think he's seen as part of the community, so to speak, and that helps a great deal. I hoped to participate more actively in asar when I cranked up underdog, but other tasks have distracted me.
"But Brad, you can't shut down my remailer. Its used to let victims of sexual abuse post anonymously to the net!"
This line of defense appeals, but the technical details seem to tell against it. :[ Remailers can quite easily be modified only to post to select groups, so posting to Usenet in general is tough to defend this way. Even then, someone could decide to repost all of clari.news.sex to asar, which would probably piss off everyone in asar as well as BT. Meanwhile, there's no way to restrict use of a remailer to private mail on certain topics, unless you take a page from Bill Wells' book and monitor all the traffic. :< N. Cognito writes:
So far I have posted the "remailer.help.all" file from chaos.bsu.edu as a "how-to" and the most recent update posted here of Raph's Reliable Remailers List as a "where-to." Neither has generated any visible response in the newsgroup as of yet. My thinking is that it would be a Good Thing to post this kind of information on a regular basis (weekly?) to some of the "support" and "recovery" newsgroups. Unless I begin drawing a lot of flames for inappropriateness, this is what I plan to do in the immediate future.
I concur. I recommend directing followups to asar.d (full name is "alt.sexual.abuse.recovery.d") to avoid flames. IMHO John Grohol's Pointers to Psychology & Support Newsgroups biweekly posting establishes a good paradigm. If this hasn't already been done, it would be nice to compile some things like remailer.help.all@chaos and remailer-list@kiwi into an official biweekly FAQ posting to alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.anonymous.messages, alt.answers, and news.answers. (N.B. Crossposting of *anything* in asar is generally taboo. I think the Pointers to Psych Groups list gets away with it, using followups out of asar.) -L. Futplex McCarthy; use "Subject: remailer-help" for an autoreply PGP key by finger or server; "Better watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical...a liberal" --Supertramp "[CIA/KGB mole Aldrich Ames] took information in shopping bags out the front door" --miscellaneous Congressperson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLtL6KWf7YYibNzjpAQHsoQQAlYXw1L6T6NsAIeVhCHuXu31emmTEM8Ox 6FR/D4tBK7tm1sqVgsAt8l9EKt8iXZ0hxLni6SgG8NXL9RitaQ2SB1az4pN7BFXL 0Py2dI4uqFQHpptqXTxzmikX/KB0PK4WdrDt09w4rq6i+v554G1YbzD+q6I7myJw HTbZ9V9iJr0= =Amvn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
| Adam Shostack writes: | [oddly, I never received the original copy of this; I seem to be missing | list messages with increasing frequency recently :( ] | > Real remailers (with return address features) should probably | > be advertised in alt.support.* and alt.recovery, in order to build a | > class of "good" users for them. [...] When I wrote this, I did not mean to claim that remailers w/o return addresses are not real. I meant to say that remailers that rely on operator screning & approval of messages are not what I consider real remailers. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume
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