You can't go underground if cryptography is illegal. You don't have remailers, so you can't be anonymous. You don't have crypto, so anyone can see what you're doing online. It doesn't work.

No, It is not difficult to find somewhere (Anguilla?) where remailers and cryptography are far less likely to be restricted than elsewhere, the US knows the pointlessness of trying to enforce proxy censorship services, so does most everywhere else since the XS4ALL fiasco, there is no way they can stop US citizens sending mail through mixmasters in say Anguilla, or some other small independent country, for example IOM.

People are tired. We win one battle, and have to begin again with another. But that's the way it works. Look at the political battles which have gone on for decades: gun control, abortion, environmentalism, many more. You have to be in this for the long haul. You have to fight every step of the way.

I agree, but you don`t realise that once cryptography is spread far enough there can be no restricting it`s use. The law is an ass. I think that finally the poloticians in D.C, London, Berlin and all the other major capitals have caught on, and realised that open availability of anonymity, security and strong crypto can only lead to crypto anarchy, they are *scared*, this time they are no longer do-gooding idiots, they are out to cover their own backs... Datacomms Technologies data security Paul Bradley, Paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul@crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul@cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: FC76DA85 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"