Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters (fwd)
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:15:31 -0800 From: Bill Stewart
Subject: Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters
Jim Choate writes:
What would be the responce of a anarchic system that was based on profit in regards something like Mitch's impact on Ctl. America and their plea for food and aid?
I see three aspects in which government affects disaster aid in this case.
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From Jim Choate:
: The question was how would an anarchic system work in this respect, not how : do governments, relief organizations, and the general public act now. ................................................ The answer is that you cannot know in advance. Since anarchies are not formal societies, there would exist no centralized formal structures, so therefore such behavior cannot be predicted. Responses to emergeny situations would depend upon the psychology of those who are living in anarchy. Predicting how they would "work", when no one is coerced to function, requires imagining the potential for normal responses available to those who are free from remote control, who can decide for themselves whether they care, and what they're going to do about it, if anything. .. Blanc
At 07:15 AM 11/16/98 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
I see three aspects in which government affects disaster aid in this case. [remainder deleted] The question was how would an anarchic system work in this respect, not how do governments, relief organizations, and the general public act now.
Wasn't explicit enough for you, even with comparisons in the sections?
Let's try again, then, deleting most of the how-it-works-today parts,
and flagging the new material with ++
0) <governments as distribution channels>
If Central America were anarchist, the road money would go to
road-maintenance companies or collectives, and the rest would
probably be handled between by the Catholic Church and other
international charities, plus by the local charities which would
be bigger because they'd be doing jobs governments do know.
1)
Blanc wrote:
From Jim Choate:
: The question was how would an anarchic system work in this respect, not how : do governments, relief organizations, and the general public act now. ................................................
The answer is that you cannot know in advance. Since anarchies are not formal societies, there would exist no centralized formal structures, so therefore such behavior cannot be predicted. Responses to emergeny situations would depend upon the psychology of those who are living in anarchy. Predicting how they would "work", when no one is coerced to function, requires imagining the potential for normal responses available to those who are free from remote control, who can decide for themselves whether they care, and what they're going to do about it, if anything.
Simple, they would work anarchically. If the guy whose house is burning down is an assh*le, then let it burn. Somewhen in the last 50 odd years, equality of opportunity (to not be an assh*le), got confused with egalitarianism (all people get the same treatment, assh*les included). Anarchy is admitting that egalitarianism can never work without promoting assh*lism.
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Bill Stewart
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Blanc
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Jim Choate
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Soren