If you want such for random #'s.... Tony S. Patti <103514.36@CompuServe.COM> of Cryptosystems Journal mentioned he'd found a meter as follows: RESOURCES UN-LTD. 800-810-4070. Victoreen Model 1 from 1964, in the original box. $39.00 -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433