John Young, separating FACT from FUD, wrote: :David Honig wrote: :>From: "George Martin" <gmartin@usonet.ne.jp> :>>Maybe you should've checked out the url to see if it was :>>valid before you shot your mouth off in public... The file :>>was removed quite a few months ago and was never download :>>by anyone outside of the .mil domain. Take your :>>troublemaking somewhere else. :>I of course informed him that he was mininformed or uninformed. : :Correct, David. Following your notice, we saved Ft. Bragg's :utility listing on April 2 and downloaded its military-grade pgp262 :for patriotic display in the public interest at: : : http://jya.com/pgp-mil-export.htm It mystifies me as to why government FUD disseminators seem to think that they can spread Fear, Uncertainty and Disinformation on the InterNet with the same blatant disregard for the facts that they employ in feeding their mainstream media pets. The problem with the wild animals free-ranging on the InterNet, of course, is that not all of them have yet been domesticated and de-fanged. They can, and will, byte back. The problem that the InterNet poses for those government administrations and agencies that desire to extend the unconstitutional rule of fear and oppression into its bosom is thus: "The InterNet interprets censorship as damage, and routes around it." ~ John Gilmore A mountain of lies by unethical, self-serving government entities is incapable of blocking the access of the citizens to the millions of molehills strewn about the InterNet which are capable of bringing the garbage that the government buries underground to the surface, where the sight and stench of it will be available to those who wish to know the truth. The government does not have the resources to intimidate and persecute the millions of individuals who are capable of placing hard evidence of government lies on their website, or of stopping the legal dissemination of US Forbidden Information (TM) to foreign countries, such as Canada, and the legal forwarding of it to a variety of countries around the world through a Canadian ISP, such as Sympatico, I amazes me that a US citizen is subject to imprisonment for sending the same material to a foreign country that she can legally send to the email addresses of foreign nationals and foreign embassy employees within the US. It particularly amazes me that those who manage to get elected to high office by promising to be 'tough on crime,' and who stress the need for the citizens to be protected from savage crimes--such as, say...murdering those in authority--by labelling as criminals and punishing those who do such things, would be so eager to enact so many far-reaching laws that an increasing majority of the citizens are, in fact, becomimg criminals and thus have increasingly little to lose by resisting the government's declared intention to punish them. The government goes to great pains to convince the citizens that violence and killing is justified when it is directed toward The Bad Guys (TM). Well, when you become a criminal, guess who The Bad Guys (TM) are... ~~~~ Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca> ~~~~ "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/webworld "InfoWar -- The Digital Revolution" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/infowar3 "Space Aliens Hide My Drugs" http://www.clas.net/~dave/public/sahmd