As Black Unicorn said, this is not alt.2600.

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Oh yeah I forgot one thing. What do you mean by NPA and why cant i just dial like a regualr call?? And what is a DMTF dialer?

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Bell payphone (CoCoTs and USWest phones do not work) and dial "1+area+npa+number", like a normal call. Then play the tones. For a local call, dial "10288+area+npa+number", which makes AT&T think it's along .... NPA: Numbering Plan Area - known to us humans as area codes; instituted circa 1947 for long distance dialing.

Phone numbers in the US look like CountryCode-NPA-NXX-XXXX, where CountryCode=1, NPA is the Numbering Plan Area, N is 2..9, and X is 0..9. NPAs used to look like N0X or N1X, and exchange codes used to look like NNX, and the not-very-powerful computers in old telephone switches could tell a long-distance call from a local call by translating on the first three digits. Switches are smarter now, and the number space is filling up, so exchange codes and NPA both look like NXX.

Also - find as many back-issues of 2600 (a print publication) and Phrack (an on-line publication [text files]) as you possibly can. Memorize them and you will be on your way to becoming a phone phreak!

Memorizing Stuff still leaves you a Clueless Newbie. Learn Stuff. Understand Stuff. Do New Stuff. (Not that memorizing hurts, of course...) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.