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John Young writes:
"U.S. Tells How It Found Soviets Sought A-Bomb: Discloses Clues That Led to Code-Breaking."
The American intelligence establishment today unveiled one of its oldest secrets: how a small team of codebreakers found the first clues that the Soviet Union sought to steal the blueprints for the atomic bomb in World War II. Using just brain power -- no computers, no stolen skeleton keys -- the cryptographers slowly cracked what was thought to be an unbreakable code.
The reports claimed the spys were using one time pads in some flawed manner, but did not explain very well what the problem was. Does anyone out there know? .pm
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@imsi.com> writes:
The reports claimed the spys were using one time pads in some flawed manner, but did not explain very well what the problem was. Does anyone out there know?
The AP story by Rita Beamish says: The Venona program translated 2,200 telegrams intercepted mostly from 1942 to 1945. They were double encoded with a complex numerical system that used a different random pattern for each message, officials said. The code would have been impossible to crack had not the volume of traffic resulted in the Soviets sloppily repeating some of the patterns, said Kahn. The "repeating some of the patterns" means to me "two time pad". Lots of work in general, but doable, unlike the one time pad. Jim Gillogly Mersday, 19 Afterlithe S.R. 1995, 16:00
On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
The reports claimed the spys were using one time pads in some flawed manner, but did not explain very well what the problem was. Does anyone out there know?
According to Christopher Andrew in "KGB: The Inside Story" the Russians started to reuse one time pads near the end of the war due to the sheer volume of secret information being sent. This was discovered by Meredith Gardener of the ASA in 1948 and later exploited to crack these messages. The operation goes under the names of Venona and Bride. The latter is used in Peter Wright's book "The Spycatcher's Encyclopedia of Espionage". -- Rolf Rolf.Michelsen@delab.sintef.no "Nostalgia isn't what it http://www.delab.sintef.no/~rolfm/ used to be..."
Could it be that they were using the pads more than once? That's the simplest flaw I can imagine. Also:
one of its oldest secrets: how a small team of codebreakers found the first clues that the Soviet Union sought to steal the blueprints for the atomic bomb in World War II.
Gee, why did it take a squad of codebreakers to come to the conclusion that the Soviets sought to steal atomic secrets? I mean, couldn't they just kinda scratch their heads and decide it was highly unlikely that the Soviets *wouldn't* do it? And why would they need to "crack" the code at all? Seems like they could do some controlled information leaks and then do some traffic flow analysis via whatever known communications channels operatives were believed to use; all they needed was grounds for suspicion, after all. I assume there's a lot about this not revealed yet, or not clear from the brief synopsis above. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Nobody's going to listen to you if you just | Mike McNally (m5@tivoli.com) | | stand there and flap your arms like a fish. | Tivoli Systems, Austin TX | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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