Re: David Friedman and assassination politics

At 00:36 4/20/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
These ideas is of course not new to cypherpunks. We've been talking about them for years. But these ideas are slowly infiltrating the DC body politic. Assassination politics, here we come -- right, Jim? Want to give a speech at Cato?
I'd be proud to do it. Even after everything that's happened so far. Strike that; ESPECIALLY after everything that's happened so far! The way I see it, they're going to have to deal with this issue eventually, and it's possible that it won't be obvious to them that libertarianism and AP mix. Indeed, I think they MUST mix; we have no choice in the matter. Jim Bell jimbell@pacifier.com

Jim, For the record: I doubt everyone agrees with your "libertarianism is intertwined with assassination politics" line... I suggest that one can believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or surly supermarket clerks. -Declan On Sun, 20 Apr 1997, Jim Bell wrote:
At 00:36 4/20/97 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote:
These ideas is of course not new to cypherpunks. We've been talking about them for years. But these ideas are slowly infiltrating the DC body politic. Assassination politics, here we come -- right, Jim? Want to give a speech at Cato?
I'd be proud to do it. Even after everything that's happened so far.
Strike that; ESPECIALLY after everything that's happened so far!
The way I see it, they're going to have to deal with this issue eventually, and it's possible that it won't be obvious to them that libertarianism and AP mix. Indeed, I think they MUST mix; we have no choice in the matter.

At 2:13 PM -0700 4/20/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
For the record: I doubt everyone agrees with your "libertarianism is intertwined with assassination politics" line... I suggest that one can believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or surly supermarket clerks.
I thought I'd pass on this quote: "Four more jeeks run up to join them. Y.T. counts two more revolvers and a pump shotgun. Any more of these guys and they'll be able to form a government." - Snow Crash p84, Neal Stephenson I have always thought that what the newspapers call "anarchy" is not the absence of government, but rather the presence of too many competing governments. I prefer nonviolent solutions myself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | God could make the world | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | in six days because he did | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz@netcom.com | not have an installed base.| Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

At 2:13 PM -0700 4/20/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I suggest that one can believe in minimal government and other libertarian mainstays without seeing a need to kill off those whom we dislike, be they IRS agents or surly supermarket clerks.
You can, but it takes most of the fun out of it. -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html
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