PLA_gue Germ Terrorism
12-30-95. To update the list of terrorist threats, the Wash Post reports on the purchase in May of bubonic plague germs by "white supremacist" Larry Wayne Harris, his bust by the FBI and germ teams, prosecutors amazement that possession of such deadly micro-organisms is not illegal, and the consequent plea bargain of wire fraud with probation. The article explains that possession of "terrorist" mites is not prohibited due to a legal loophole which allows scientific trade in wee supremacists. There are calls for outlawing the meat-eaters by closing the gap in the anti-terrorism bill before Congress. But scientists say how dare you spit in our nanodeath soup. It notes that offshore spread is Commerce regulated. BTW, why this story now about summer events? For the anti-terrorist bill, TLA-plague growth, any germ any? PLA_gue
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12-30-95. To update the list of terrorist threats, the Wash Post reports on the purchase in May of bubonic plague germs by "white supremacist" Larry Wayne Harris, his bust by the FBI and germ teams, prosecutors amazement that possession of such deadly micro-organisms is not illegal, and the consequent plea bargain of wire fraud with probation.
< snip > Think that's fun? How 'bout this: given that the initial "mapping" phase of the human genome project is nearly complete, and the huge amount of genetic information available on the net, PLUS ever- more-powerful-yet-less-costly computers anyone can purchase, just how long do y'all think it'll be before some nut whips up a bug that targets, say, people with negroid genetic characteristics? Or epicanthic folds? Or blonde hair? Seem kinda far-fetched? The November NUTS & VOLTS has a nifty six page article on garage genetic experimentation (how to convert that old aquarium into an incubator, culturing techniques, etc.). They even list souces for equipment AND GERMS. Yes folks, you can order your very own "E-Z Gene Splicer DNA Recombination and Transformation Kit" from the good folks at Images Company, POBox 140742, Staten Island NY 10314, (718) 698-8305, $49.95 each, not recommended for children under 6 (too many parents complaining about mutated family cats). Quote from the article: "A word of caution is in order before we start. Although the materials in the kit are safe, it is important for you to follow simple procedures to keep the experiment controlled and nonthreatening." No shit. E-coli bacteria (what the kit uses) aren't pathogens, but still... I guess every budding young white supremist/right-wing religious nut/genocidal maniac has to start somewhere. Pleasant dreams. -- || ______ || comments, criticisms, and/or death-threats may be sent to: || || \__ /\ || jonny anonymous, c/o jonnyx@edge.net || || __/ / \ || or snail-mail pobox 23001, nashvegas tn 37202-3001, usa || || \__/_/\_\ ||______"DRIVING DRUNK ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY!"______|| ps - Hey! I violated the new copyright laws with my quote AND I wrote a dirty word that 10 year olds might read! Cool! Wonder how else this message can get me in trouble?
Think that's fun? How 'bout this: given that the initial "mapping" phase of the human genome project is nearly complete, and the huge amount of genetic information available on the net, PLUS ever- more-powerful-yet-less-costly computers anyone can purchase, just how long do y'all think it'll be before some nut whips up a bug that targets, say, people with negroid genetic characteristics? Or epicanthic folds? Or blonde hair?
Malarky.
Seem kinda far-fetched? The November NUTS & VOLTS has a nifty six page article on garage genetic experimentation (how to convert that old aquarium into an incubator, culturing techniques, etc.). They even list souces for equipment AND GERMS. Yes folks, you can order your very own "E-Z Gene Splicer DNA Recombination and Transformation Kit" from the good folks at Images Company, POBox 140742, Staten Island NY 10314, (718) 698-8305, $49.95 each, not recommended for children under 6 (too many parents complaining about mutated family cats).
While it is quite possible to obtain equipment and supplies from any reputable science supply center (I like Brodehead-Garrett & Cenco myself) it is not cheap. The type of equipment that can be made out of aquaria and such is very low-level and poses little threat *provided* isolation proceedures are taken. The types of 'genetic' experiments that can be done at this level are quite simple and generaly explore characteristics that are based on the crossing models of Mendelson. Most of the threat of this type of experiments are from simple infections since viruses are not easily raised with this form of equipment. One of my favorite 'technology rulers' is when the first strain of commen yeast is released which produces THC or LSD. Both of these chemicals are relatively simple to produce at a cellular level and Marijuana was completely mapped just a couple of years ago. Yeast has been mapped for several years and there is a whole technology of protocols based around using it (or E. Coli) for laboratory experiments into secondary and tertiary production systems in cells. The reason that I use Marijuana or LSD as a test is that neither are the result of direct protein synthesis. They are rather produced as a result of cellular metabolism of primary componants. Both of these require garage level control and access to only the most basic tools and sequencers. To do this successfuly will require somebody to take the necessary genomes out of the choromosomes and then using a virus and suitable cutting agents insert them in the yeast. I do not believe we will see this in the near term using the micro-manipulater systems which do direct injection of genetic material because of the cost and utility requirements of such equipment.
Quote from the article: "A word of caution is in order before we start. Although the materials in the kit are safe, it is important for you to follow simple procedures to keep the experiment controlled and nonthreatening." No shit. E-coli bacteria (what the kit uses) aren't pathogens, but still... I guess every budding young white supremist/right-wing religious nut/genocidal maniac has to start somewhere.
E. Coli can be quite toxic. The people who died last year because of the bad burger at the Jack In The Box died from E. Coli. There are hundreds of strains of Esherichi Coli and not all of them are benign. There is also a long history of this type of experimentation, it is not new. Scientific American put out a book in the late 50's and early 60's that had a whole slew of 'Amateur Scientist' articles compiled and several of them related to this technology.
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:54:15 -0600 (CST) From: jonnyx <jonnyx@edge.edge.net> To: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: (NOISE) Re: PLA_gue Germ Terrorism
In a recent message, John Young babbled:
< GIANT snip > am i troll-bait or what?
Think that's fun? How 'bout this: given that the initial "mapping" phase of the human genome project is nearly complete, and the huge amount of genetic information available on the net, PLUS ever- more-powerful-yet-less-costly computers anyone can purchase, just how long do y'all think it'll be before some nut whips up a bug that targets, say, people with negroid genetic characteristics? Or epicanthic folds? Or blonde hair?
this is so much shit. targetting anything is very difficult. just ask all those people about the wonders of gene therapy. hell, even the economist had an article about it's failures recently (Dec 16-22 1995, p77). in any event the so-called 'differences' you are imagining are phenotypes. these are a long cry from DNA. i'm not aware of any genetic markers available to distinguish a black man from a white man. and, even if there were, recombination requires long stretches of homology between DNAs, not small differences. i'd bet it's nearly impossible to target black vs white vs yellow vs a gorilla.
Seem kinda far-fetched? The November NUTS & VOLTS has a nifty
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