Re: FW: No SKE in Daytona and other goodies
From: Timothy C. May But what is the reason of the involvement of "law enforcement" and the "intelligence community" in this matter? I refer you all to the upcoming conference agenda, the involvement of NIST/NSA, TIS, Denning, and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Look at the papers being presented at the conference. Any questions? ............................................. If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it? Blanc
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If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it?
No, but (Cliche Alert) the road to key escrow is paved with good intentions. IMHO the developers who might actually be working on implementations of this scheme either a) don't know that it _could easily_ "become part of a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying," b) know but don't think such developments are likely, or c) know and don't care. Clearly education is a powerful antidote to cases a) and b) - -Paul - -- Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG | "Information is the currency of democracy." perobich@ingr.com | - some old guy named Thomas Jefferson Of course I don't speak for Intergraph. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLjlnc6fb4pLe9tolAQEL5gP/VNTciCCZNEQm5o99ynHYmXJFnOYt3QuP 30do0DZMxIyjYh6PwiyXbpIn2odqqGqy1pt1b+12+s24bEAcRI2tm86bZH5ebwU2 7nZvu8MedmMHp8PNy9ihlXWtUwDDTK1TPK4DmBOZPcvHN5F8sdQcqq6lSqELIBcA NrM2P47zMGw= =8yyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Paul Robichaux writes:
No, but (Cliche Alert) the road to key escrow is paved with good intentions. IMHO the developers who might actually be working on implementations of this scheme either a) don't know that it _could easily_ "become part of a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying," b) know but don't think such developments are likely, or c) know and don't care.
Clearly education is a powerful antidote to cases a) and b)
To this can be added an obvious fourth possibility: d) know and care, but have a paycheck to earn and a career to think about. I think many people working for companies developing unsavory products find reasonse not to quit in rigtheous indignation. In fact, we could add more possibilities: e) know and care, but think it best to "work from within" f) know and care, but also know that company will just assign others to same job And so forth. The may also know and care, but think the dangers are being overstated, or that "that's not my department" ("says Klaus! von Bomb"?) --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."
From: Blanc Weber <blancw@microsoft.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 94 12:34:14 PDT From: Timothy C. May But what is the reason of the involvement of "law enforcement" and the "intelligence community" in this matter? I refer you all to the upcoming conference agenda, the involvement of NIST/NSA, TIS, Denning, and FBI Director Louis Freeh. Look at the papers being presented at the conference. Any questions? ............................................. If a system contains "protocols especially suited for eventual mandatory use", like SKE, does this of necessity mean that the developers intended that it should become part of a nationally-mandated open avenue to spying on anyone who uses it? Not of necessity. (One senses some bottom-covering here...) It DOES of necessity mean that they are, wittingly or unwittingly, contributing to opening the avenue. It is incumbent upon us to make them aware of that contribution, so that their consciences may be tortured thereby. If in fact they have any.
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