AW: Binding cryptography - a fraud-detectible alternative to key-escrow
oh pooh, you've seen this material run through over and over. perhaps you respect my "opinion" because you know i am right. i know i don't respect your position, because i am irrevocably convinced that you are wrong. acceptable: -tracking of all chemicals which have been or can be manufactured into poisons, explosives, or psychoactives (cannot buy or sell anonymously) -tracking of all automobiles and deadly weapons -restrictions on yelling "fire!" in a crowded movie theater that isn't on fire unacceptable: -restrictions on what i can think, who i can speak to, what i can say, and how i say it, aside from shouting lies in a crowded movie theater or other such crowded public place. -restrictions on how i can defend myself when my life is threatened -prohibitions on drug purchase, sale, or use i'm not ever going to change my position on this. you can drive bamboo shoots under my fingernails and toenails, you can megadose me on LSD, you can pull my teeth and administer electric shocks to my testicles, and i am still going to believe that absolute information privacy, and absolute freedom of thought and conversation, are inalienable human rights. if what you want to stop is airplane explosions, landmines, poisoned water supplies, and mailbombs, please PLEASE make it your personal mission to see that chemicals are more tightly controlled, airports have the latest and greatest nuclear resonance tomographic imagers, landmines aren't manufactured or sold any longer, water supplies are tested around the clock using the latest technology, and everyone knows not to open unsolicited packages. if what you want to stop is drugs-prostitution-gambling, perhaps you had better wake up. organized crime, and the drug lord, are created and empowered by laws which make drug sales, prostitution, and gambling illegal. why are they illegal? who is the victim? if you take away the legal mandates which impose the wills of religious zealots, you take away the structures which grant monopolies to violent criminals. no amount of pontification, education, or legislation is going to rid the world of people who will do whatever is necessary to get drugs, visit prostitutes, and gamble. so if you make them illegal, you instantly create a perpetual menace. and now you expect me to agree that we should help the government listen to everyone's communications, so that they can stop drug dealers, prostitution rings, and betting pools? hello? they created the problem. i don't trust my government. i don't trust ANY government. government is that segment of society that arrogates a monopoly on "legitimate violence." it is composed of powergrabbers, and ass-kissers with sinecures, who are paid with stolen money, some of it stolen from me. the last thing in the world i am going to find acceptable is a law that says i have to tell the government everything i tell my lover over the phone. fuck that! -douzzer
oh pooh, you've seen this material run through over and over. perhaps you respect my "opinion" because you know i am right. i know i don't respect your position, because i am irrevocably convinced that you are wrong.
Well, I guess that by the above paragraph, I am perfectly just in calling you a nearsighted fool?
acceptable:
-tracking of all chemicals which have been or can be manufactured into poisons, explosives, or psychoactives (cannot buy or sell anonymously)
<BZZZZT> thanks for playing. Nearly _all_ chemicals can be manufactured into poisons, not to mention explosives. You wanna register your bottle of bleach with the feds? I can make a mustard gas clone out of it. You wanna register your bag of sugar? There are explosives that can be made out of it. Hell, **OXYGEN** is toxic in high concentrations. You wanna track THAT? Life is %100 fatal. You can't change that.
-tracking of all automobiles and deadly weapons
Why? What percentage of murders are _solved_ because the police find the murder weapon, and use THAT to track it back to the killer? I'd bet that it is an insignificant percentage (first person who points out a single case gets the twit award--a free copy of GNU emacs source code mailed to your email address--I KNOW it happens, but is it statistically common? No.) And why track autos? Nosy little feds wanna know where I am?
unacceptable: -restrictions on what i can think, who i can speak to, what i can say, and how i say it, aside from shouting lies in a crowded movie theater or other such crowded public place.
But by saying MEAN THINGS, you are hurting people, and that is wrong.
-restrictions on how i can defend myself when my life is threatened
Defending yourself isn't necessary, We, the government will do that for you.
-prohibitions on drug purchase, sale, or use
Tracking chemicals...
i'm not ever going to change my position on this. you can drive bamboo shoots under my fingernails and toenails, you can megadose me on LSD,
Sounds like one of these has happened already, and I don't hear you screaming...
you can pull my teeth and administer electric shocks to my testicles, and i am still going to believe that absolute information privacy, and absolute freedom of thought and conversation, are inalienable human rights.
1) Torture doesn't change someones mind. There are other means of doing that. 2) Very unimaginative.
if what you want to stop is airplane explosions, landmines, poisoned water supplies, and mailbombs, please PLEASE make it your personal mission to see that chemicals are more tightly controlled, airports have the latest and greatest nuclear resonance tomographic imagers, landmines aren't manufactured or sold any longer, water supplies are tested around the clock using the latest technology, and everyone knows not to open unsolicited packages.
Or just make it unnecessary to carry out terrorist acts.
i don't trust my government. i don't trust ANY government. government is that segment of society that arrogates a monopoly on "legitimate violence." it is composed of powergrabbers, and ass-kissers with sinecures, who are paid with stolen money, some of it stolen from me.
You don't trust _any_ government, yet you want them to track _every_ chemical that people purchase? There is crypto relevance in there somewhere I think... Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@smoke.suba.com
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