-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Regarding Fred Cohen, PhD: Cohen's haughty and bombastic style do nothing good for his reputation. I assume he advertises his PhD to highlight his early accomplishments; he has done little since. Let's also consider the granting institution, a second-rank school. Cohen's thesis broke new ground, but how many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word? How far did he carry this work? Where are the conference and journal papers? Cohen's reputation faded into obscurity long ago. Now he is building a new reputation as a pig-headed loudmouth, threatening his "defamers." Shades of Sternlight. DEADBEAT <na5877@anon.penet.fi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQBFAgUBMOa9TPFZTpBW/B35AQFLQQGAmzB8o+g5k3mYmzMmk3JiDTBf+P8dSFZY 25IwVISjSV7o95vgbmNWAy/3zVY50AKn =SfU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse@anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help@anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin@anon.penet.fi
Regarding Fred Cohen, PhD:
Cohen's haughty and bombastic style do nothing good for his reputation. I assume he advertises his PhD to highlight his early accomplishments; he has done little since.
Apparently you have a reading disability. I haven't used Ph.D. next to my name on this forum for some time.
Let's also consider the granting institution, a second-rank school.
When you insult me, that's one thing, but insulting my school is something quite different. The University of Southern California is one of the finest educational institutions in the world, and is widely recognized as such. The engineering school at USC (from which I earned my Ph.D.) is commonly ranked in the top 10 in the US, and in the year that I graduated, my department was ranked in the top 5 in the US. USC, in addition to having a fine athletic tradition, also has many unique benefits that sets it apart from many other excellent schools. But I wouldn't want to advertise in this forum - you'll have to contact them directly for more extensive information.
Cohen's thesis broke new ground, but how many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word? How far did he carry this work? Where are the conference and journal papers? Cohen's reputation faded into obscurity long ago. Now he is building a new reputation as a pig-headed loudmouth, threatening his "defamers." Shades of Sternlight.
Some people are ignorant because they haven't had a chance to learn, but other people are ignorant because they choose to be. In your case, it is apparently the latter. But I will answer your questions nonetheless: How many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word? The thesis has only sold a few hundred copies, however, over 20,000 people have read my books on the subject. My two articles in "The Sciences" reached about 25,000 people each. But I don't think thatr the value of peoples' work is a function of how many people know about them. How far did he carry this work? I have published over 30 refereed journal articles on the subject, about 50 conference papers, about 100 invited talks, and today, over 1/2 of all computers in the world run virus defense software using techniques I first published. That's more refereed papers than anyone else in the world on that particular subject. Where are the conference and journal papers? They are listed on the Web site listed below. They include IEEE, ACM, and IFIP papers, invited papers at IEEE, ACM, DPMA, IFIP, and NIST conferences (as well as many others). So, now that we have a very brief history of my work, let us all know where you went to school, how many journal and conference papers you have published, how many books you have written. We already know that you won't tell people your name because you are afraid to have it associated with you personally, but maybe you can help us all understand how expert you are and what you have contributed to the world so we can appreciate your point of view. -> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236
Regarding Fred Cohen, PhD:
Cohen's haughty and bombastic style do nothing good for his reputation. I assume he advertises his PhD to highlight his early accomplishments; he has done little since.
Apparently you have a reading disability. I haven't used Ph.D. next to my name on this forum for some time.
.oO( some time = ~3 weeks )
Let's also consider the granting institution, a second-rank school.
When you insult me, that's one thing, but insulting my school is something quite different. The University of Southern California is one of the finest educational institutions in the world, and is widely recognized as such.
.oO( So is Alabama State, even says so in the catalog )
The engineering school at USC (from which I earned my Ph.D.) is commonly ranked in the top 10 in the US, and in the year that I graduated, my department was ranked in the top 5 in the US.
USC, in addition to having a fine athletic tradition, also has many unique benefits that sets it apart from many other excellent schools. But I wouldn't want to advertise in this forum - you'll have to contact them directly for more extensive information.
.oO( I see you still have their catalog )
Cohen's thesis broke new ground, but how many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word? How far did he carry this work? Where are the conference and journal papers? Cohen's reputation faded into obscurity long ago. Now he is building a new reputation as a pig-headed loudmouth, threatening his "defamers." Shades of Sternlight.
Some people are ignorant because they haven't had a chance to learn, but other people are ignorant because they choose to be. In your case, it is
.oO( Some people just don't have two clues to rub together )
apparently the latter. But I will answer your questions nonetheless:
How many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word?
The thesis has only sold a few hundred copies, however, over 20,000 people have read my books on the subject. My two articles in "The Sciences" reached about 25,000 people each.
( I once told an OJ Simpson joke on Usenet ) ( that was supposedly seen by 40 million people ) .OO( including a dozen messaiahs, three space men, ) ( and a hermathadite. )
But I don't think thatr the value of peoples' work is a function of how many people know about them.
How far did he carry this work?
I have published over 30 refereed journal articles on the subject, about 50 conference papers, about 100 invited talks, and today, over 1/2 of all computers in the world run virus defense software using techniques I first published. That's more refereed papers than anyone else in the world on that particular subject.
( Also gives Jerry Pournell something to talk about besides ) .oO( Wing Commander, hope you add that to your resume )
Where are the conference and journal papers?
They are listed on the Web site listed below. They include IEEE, ACM, and IFIP papers, invited papers at IEEE, ACM, DPMA, IFIP, and NIST conferences (as well as many others).
( What? No WiReD magazine? How did he escape the crackpot ) .oO( visionary center of the universe? )
So, now that we have a very brief history of my work, let us all know where you went to school, how many journal and conference papers you have published, how many books you have written.
We already know that you won't tell people your name because you are afraid to have it associated with you personally, but maybe you can help
( Dr. Fred hides behind a post office box to people can't ) .oO( drop by and tell him hes a loon )
us all understand how expert you are and what you have contributed to the world so we can appreciate your point of view.
.oO( I ain't no Ph.D, but even I can see Fred is a loon )
-> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/
( Someone told him he was missing the /, was fun while it lasted ) .oO( Wonder if he will write a paper on URL grammar now )
Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236
In article <9512311818.AA16259@all.net>, fc@all.net (Fred Cohen) says:
Regarding Fred Cohen, PhD:
Cohen's haughty and bombastic style do nothing good for his reputation. I assume he advertises his PhD to highlight his early accomplishments; he has done little since.
Anyone that has earned a PhD has EARNED the right to follow his/her name with that distinction. Power to him. It's an accomplishment that we should all strive for if we're so inclined. Dr Cohen: I respect your degree and it doesn't bother me one bit for you to use the title that you deserve.
Apparently you have a reading disability. I haven't used Ph.D. next to my name on this forum for some time.
Let's also consider the granting institution, a second-rank school.
Let's consider the cretin that considers USC a "second rank school."
When you insult me, that's one thing, but insulting my school is something quite different. The University of Southern California is one of the finest educational institutions in the world, and is widely recognized as such. The engineering school at USC (from which I earned my Ph.D.) is commonly ranked in the top 10 in the US, and in the year that I graduated, my department was ranked in the top 5 in the US.
USC, in addition to having a fine athletic tradition, also has many unique benefits that sets it apart from many other excellent schools. But I wouldn't want to advertise in this forum - you'll have to contact them directly for more extensive information.
Cohen's thesis broke new ground, but how many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word? How far did he carry this work? Where are the conference and journal papers? Cohen's reputation faded into obscurity long ago. Now he is building a new reputation as a pig-headed loudmouth, threatening his "defamers." Shades of Sternlight.
And what, may I ask, have YOU written?
Some people are ignorant because they haven't had a chance to learn, but other people are ignorant because they choose to be. In your case, it is apparently the latter. But I will answer your questions nonetheless:
How many people have read it, or any of his writings, or know anything about his ideas beyond a single word?
The thesis has only sold a few hundred copies, however, over 20,000 people have read my books on the subject. My two articles in "The Sciences" reached about 25,000 people each. But I don't think thatr the value of peoples' work is a function of how many people know about them.
How far did he carry this work?
I have published over 30 refereed journal articles on the subject, about 50 conference papers, about 100 invited talks, and today, over 1/2 of all computers in the world run virus defense software using techniques I first published. That's more refereed papers than anyone else in the world on that particular subject.
Where are the conference and journal papers?
They are listed on the Web site listed below. They include IEEE, ACM, and IFIP papers, invited papers at IEEE, ACM, DPMA, IFIP, and NIST conferences (as well as many others).
So, now that we have a very brief history of my work, let us all know where you went to school, how many journal and conference papers you have published, how many books you have written.
We already know that you won't tell people your name because you are afraid to have it associated with you personally, but maybe you can help us all understand how expert you are and what you have contributed to the world so we can appreciate your point of view.
-> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236
I really don't understand this guys' hostility toward Dr Cohen. But... it just doesn't matter. To hell with him.
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