http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/print/960624/cover/doc1.html This, of course, is not any indication that we should not stay vigilant. As is clear from every public statement by the past and present administrations, they have an agenda to protect their monopoly on intelligence gathering. They clearly have a strong interest in hamstringing every single challenge to the current regulations. If ITAR is torn down, then they will use the OECD and other international organizations to stop the flow of encryption. It is NOT useful to reason with them. It takes direct confrontation using legislation and court case battles to fix this problem. Ern