-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Peter's point: If everyone in the US wants a ban on strong crypto, excepth the people on this list and the million-odd terrorists who are using strong crypto to murder, rape, pillage, etc., then strong crypto will be banned. If I understarn your point, Peter, you are correct. However, there probably won't be thousands of terrorist folks who can't be caught because of their expert use of strong crypto. I mena, half the mad bombers in the US try to get their deposit back on the vans that they used to blow up buildings. Do you think these people will be able to effectively use crypto? Furthermore, terrorrim and etc do not depend upon secure communications to work. People tend to be able to talk face-to-face in isolated environs, this is just as effective as a good public-key cryptosystem. Crypto won't suddenly protect the types of people who are professional killers/terrorists from scrutiny. It meerly would allow them to communicate securely over distances of more than 10 feet. This, IMO, is not much of a win for them. So, you're right. Given the proper conditions, strong crypto could probably be mostly stopped. However, these conditions are quite unlikely to arise. Jer "standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBMoNf5ckz/YzIV3P5AQHzNwL/XDr62TKhBrthrrWkS1KRv/H0yryv0EkO PErVFSHWC9YsNdON97YXD75fHrVdhpfPUfHStmJY9l7IM91RQkoozolV36Q3OwVy YOa3tEtn4TuCq3wxD2xIwaAlVWkBe0jw =gXVT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----