Hi, I have been on this list lately. I have seen all sorts of diversions from "normal" cypherpunk discussion. None has been as big as this discussion on psuedonyms and "pseudospoofing". I always thought that this list was made up of people who already believed that privacy was a good thing and that it should be persued by writing cryptographic software that enforced that privacy. There are newsgroups for debating various features of privacy, I think one of them is called alt.privacy or something equally obvious. I know the discussions are pretinent to the code that we write but I dont believe they belong on this list. If I wanted to discuss the ups and downs of giving everybody privacy I would read the appropriate lists. Tim N.