From: cactus@bb.hks.net (L. Todd Masco) Todd's good discussion of social lists addresses well some of the social aspects of a decision to modify the server to do something. It is certainly not a clear case in my mind: Eric might be able to pull it off without pissing too many people off, he might not. This discussion is part of what will determine that. What is certainly clear enough to me is that the list is certainly social enough that without discussion the endeavor would certainly fail. I'll make a prediction: requiring digital signatures will annoy most those people who are independant and don't care to be told that they should at least ostensibly provide a strong identity/posting mapping. 1. Independence. Higher levels of richness (and I mean much more than wealth) require higher levels of interaction. There is a qualitative difference between, on one hand, violence and coercion and, on the other, inducements and interactions. Both can reduce independence. Then again I don't feel that liberty and independence are what I desire most. 2. Strong mappings. Two solutions already presented here allow a workaround. Pseudonymous and one-time keys both work, as does an autosigning alternate entry point. I say great, build them. Apropos of one-time use keys, will PGP function properly on a 20 bit modulus? Another non-key would be to generate a short key and post both public and private halves. thought that this was one of the common assumptions of this list: that anonymity as well as pseudonymity was a goal worth achieving. Requiring signatures seems several steps backwards. The first time a signature appears, it's anonymous. The second time it appears it's pseudonymous, and references the preceding message. Requiring signatures does not prevent anonymity. as I suggested last night, such a list address could be set to automatically sign all posts Why do I suspect that such a service will be available at cypherpunks@hks.net? I don't mind; I think it would be useful service and entirely compatible with what I want to accomplish. Eric