About all the proposed symbols and logos and ribbons.... I realize I often come across as a naysayer against collective efforts to design logos, arm patches, flags, and other such tribal insignias...(:-}). Logos and symbols have their place. The "Big Brother Inside" logo is a good joke. But mainly I think that we underestimate the value of _words_. Instead of some cutesy logo, such as a red rose being run over by the "Valdez," a logo which many people would not understand and would not be interested in looking up an explanation for, why not simply include a couple of English sentances _describing_ why the page has been censored, why adult material has been removed, etc.? (This is the norm today, and I'm glad of it. I don't relish looking at a Web page filled with inscrutably clever icons and logos.) Graphical icons are great, and worked well until writing was invented. --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."